The Congressman is back yo

[VMFA187]

On 3/7/2023 at 9:19 PM, Pooter said:

...in a sea of violence...

The f*ck are you talking about? I'm guessing you've never had to hurt or kill someone. 

I'm guessing you're in the camp that think "words" can be violence as well. 

Edited March 9, 2023 by VMFA187

[Pooter]

I think we're arguing two different questions and kinda crossing the streams. 
 

Question 1: how was capitol police so bad that the building got overrun by maga buffalo hat retards

Question 2: what do you do when you're a vastly outnumbered cop in a building overrun by maga buffalo hat retards

 

question 1 is a valid concern and worth investigation and reform so the capitol doesn't have such limp dick security. 
 

question 2 is basically a distraction/red herring and what the Tucker videos are about. 

[Pooter]

2 hours ago, VMFA187 said:

The f*ck are you talking about? I'm guessing you've never had to hurt or kill someone. 

I'm guessing you in the camp that think "words" can be violence as well. 

I'm talking about the thousands of people smashing in windows, destroying police barricades, assaulting police, vandalizing the capitol.. you know.. literally every other video of the event aside from tucker's super sweet 5 minute compilation. 
 

But you're probably right I don't know what violence is, I'm just a soy boy cuck. Not a big strong stone cold killer marine like you 😂

 

Do you hear how you're coming across right now?  Here's a hint:

Edited March 9, 2023 by Pooter

[08Dawg]

4 hours ago, Homestar said:

There are times where I think that there's no way that our country would find itself back in a place where brothers are killing brothers on a battle field.  But then I read threads here and am reminded that there are absolutely people here who wouldn't hesitate to shoot me dead if we ever get into a shooting war against ourselves.

 

Then you get idiots like MTG who are actively advocating for shit like that and it really makes you wonder, doesn't it?

[bfargin]

2 hours ago, Pooter said:

I'm talking about the thousands of people smashing in windows, destroying police barricades, assaulting police, vandalizing the capitol …

Ok Rachel Maddow

[HercDude]

10 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

Our speculation on on verbal jujitsu versus cowardly disorganization is irrelevant; the January 6 congressional committee should have investigated why the capitol police were unable to effectively protect the capital.  Unfortunately, because of Democrats playing politics, the investigation was a complete sham.  Indisputable.

 

Only because the GOP played politics and filibustered the proposed 50/50 joint commission, even though that proposal passed the House vote 252–175.  We would have been much better off with a joined commission.

[Stoker]

13 hours ago, Pooter said:

 

Question 1: how was capitol police so bad that the building got overrun by maga buffalo hat retards

It's not a hard question to answer. The Capitol Police were/are a glorified security guard force, where anyone competent leaves for a different federal agency ASAP. Leadership roles go to people who've stuck around by default. You spend enough time sitting by a metal detector, you eventually freeze when it comes time to start shooting. 

[brabus]

2020 BLM/Antifa riots: $2B+ in damages, 100s of small businesses completely destroyed, 100s more w/ significant damage, 700+ LEO assaulted/injured, 20-30 people dead…0 hearings and 0 ounce of give a fuck by congress/MSM. 
 

J6: $150M in damages, 0 small business affected, 80-100 LEO assaulted/injured, 1 dead…full up congressional commission and 6.9 billion ounces of congressional/MSM outrage and vitriol.

I‘m not excusing the actions of some on J6 or arguing that this comparison means J6 wasn’t a thing. But people need to understand why it is very rational to view these facts, combined with constant censorship attempts/demands, and conclude there is some very fucked up, shady shit going on in our country. Those of you trying to shut someone down because they don’t share your generally MSM-approved viewpoint need to open the aperture. Personally I look at this and all the info I can find and conclude J6 was a thing, it was not even remotely what the Dems/MSM have tried to make it out to be, and the gov/MSM has no credibility when they ignore 2020, but are frothing at the mouth regarding J6.

[Sim]

[Negatory]

2 hours ago, Sim said:

Projection is a hell of a drug. Maybe some self reflection is in order.

 

[Guardian]

Seems like a network message sent out to affiliates for commercials. Pretty weak.

[Pooter]

On 3/9/2023 at 6:47 PM, bfargin said:

Ok Rachel Maddow

Lol you guys threw an almighty sh!t fit when the left called the George Floyd riots "mostly peaceful" and then you turn around and act like the thing we saw happen at the capitol was no big deal. 

[Pooter]

11 hours ago, brabus said:

2020 BLM/Antifa riots: $2B+ in damages, 100s of small businesses completely destroyed, 100s more w/ significant damage, 700+ LEO assaulted/injured, 20-30 people dead…0 hearings and 0 ounce of give a fuck by congress/MSM. 
 

J6: $150M in damages, 0 small business affected, 80-100 LEO assaulted/injured, 1 dead…full up congressional commission and 6.9 billion ounces of congressional/MSM outrage and vitriol.

I‘m not excusing the actions of some on J6 or arguing that this comparison means J6 wasn’t a thing. But people need to understand why it is very rational to view these facts, combined with constant censorship attempts/demands, and conclude there is some very fucked up, shady shit going on in our country. Those of you trying to shut someone down because they don’t share your generally MSM-approved viewpoint need to open the aperture. Personally I look at this and all the info I can find and conclude J6 was a thing, it was not even remotely what the Dems/MSM have tried to make it out to be, and the gov/MSM has no credibility when they ignore 2020, but are frothing at the mouth regarding J6.

Correct. And the right has no credibility when they try to launder a 5 minute video into some kind of game changer bombshell that *surprise!!* Jan 6th wasn't that bad. 
 

If I can get nothing else through to you guys please hear this: blind subscribers to either political party are intellectual trash who will use any shred of anything that appears to lean their way to validate their pre-existing views.  This goes for the entire MSM and the vast majority of right wing online news culture.

I think the first step to recovery is acknowledging that both sides have gone incredibly wrong in very different but very severe ways, and after you admit that it's easy to stop playing the tit-for-tat tribal political game. 

[Blue]

On 3/8/2023 at 5:58 PM, lloyd christmas said:

This thread will end up just like the Covid thread. The government lied.  The truth always comes out.  Unfortunately, there are too many people that jump on the ride and refuse to get off.  

It's not even so much that "the government lied."  Governments and politicians lie.  It's an unfortunate aspect of our system of government.

To me, it's more the fact that we're all awash in propaganda and narrative, and so many people are blind to it.  The NPC memes that get tossed around are frighteningly accurate.

[TreeA10]

The big takeaways are 1. Officer Sicknick did not die on Jan 6th but the media, FJB, the AG, and democrats knew it and lied. Worse, they continue to lie in some cases.  2. The DOJ intentionally failed to disclose evidence as required by constitutional law. They lied to the court.  3. Democrats trashed a couple centuries of precedence by not allowing the minority party to select their committee members, did not allow counter arguments or evidence, and staged a show trial that would have made Stalin proud.

In other words, there is no lie too big even if it means the destruction of the truth, legal protections, and the legislative process in order to further the advancement of power.  Scary shit right there.

[Blue]

16 minutes ago, TreeA10 said:

2. The DOJ intentionally failed to disclose evidence as required by constitutional law. They lied to the court.  

In other words, there is no lie too big even if it means the destruction of the truth, legal protections, and the legislative process in order to further the advancement of power.  Scary shit right there.

Yeah, this is a particularly concerning aspect of the whole clown show.  Karl Denninger does a good job of breaking it down.  Excerpt below:

This is a serious problem for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the number of people sitting in prison -- or convicted on connived, false claims with no ability for their defense to access the evidence proving that in many cases they were escorted.

At worst most of these people are guilty of trespass, but even there you likely can't make it stick as trespass is voided if you're invited or chaperoned, and its quite clear that at least in some cases -- they are.

There's another problem too: The Brady decision by the USSC makes clear that the prosecution must turn over all evidence they have which exculpates a defendant.  It's not optional and it dates to 1963.  The violations here are severe and in fact it appears basically universal.

Indeed the definition of malicious prosecution is to bring a case before the court where you know the exculpatory evidence is so strong you'd never win a conviction and you intentionally withhold it from the defense.  That opens up the DOJ and even the individuals involved to personal liability.

I have no idea how the DOJ thought they'd get away with this indefinitely, but apparently they did think they would.

[brabus]

12 hours ago, Pooter said:

Lol you guys threw an almighty sh!t fit when the left called the George Floyd riots "mostly peaceful" and then you turn around and act like the thing we saw happen at the capitol was no big deal. 

They were both bad and I don’t think anyone here is saying J6 was no big deal. But, one was significantly worse than the other in terms of the actual event(s) and the response. If you don’t see that, then you are the “blind subscriber” you railed against in your following post.

[tac airlifter]

12 hours ago, Pooter said:

Correct. And the right has no credibility when they try to launder a 5 minute video into some kind of game changer bombshell that *surprise!!* Jan 6th wasn't that bad. 

J6 was a violent riot.  Tucker's reporting says that as well.  However Congress, the president, the vice president, and multiple news networks have been telling us it was an armed insurrection & worse than 9/11 or Pearl Harbor.  On a scale relative to those events, it's accurate to say "J6 wasn't that bad."

It's also lazy to rely on the "both sides bad" comeback.  I recall during the height of ISIS our MSM networks would cautiously report on a dozen children roasted alive by the Caliphate (or whatever latest barbarity) while reminding us that Christian extremists also exist and are bad.  My reply then & now is "you're not wrong but GMAFB."  

there can be no unity or reconciliation in our country without accountability for shitty behavior on any side. On that I hope we agree and if focused on that these conversations can be more unifying and productive.  If a J6 or BLM rioter is caught, throw them in jail.  If Trump breaks the law, investigate & prosecute.  If Biden has been taking Chinese bribe money through his crackhead son, investigate & prosecute.  Unfortunately a politicized and unethical DOJ/FBI is only weighing in against one side on those above examples and that is clearly apparent now.  I want one country under God with liberty and justice for all.  

[Pooter]

On 3/11/2023 at 9:12 AM, tac airlifter said:

J6 was a violent riot.  Tucker's reporting says that as well.  However Congress, the president, the vice president, and multiple news networks have been telling us it was an armed insurrection & worse than 9/11 or Pearl Harbor.  On a scale relative to those events, it's accurate to say "J6 wasn't that bad."

It's also lazy to rely on the "both sides bad" comeback.  I recall during the height of ISIS our MSM networks would cautiously report on a dozen children roasted alive by the Caliphate (or whatever latest barbarity) while reminding us that Christian extremists also exist and are bad.  My reply then & now is "you're not wrong but GMAFB."  

there can be no unity or reconciliation in our country without accountability for shitty behavior on any side. On that I hope we agree and if focused on that these conversations can be more unifying and productive.  If a J6 or BLM rioter is caught, throw them in jail.  If Trump breaks the law, investigate & prosecute.  If Biden has been taking Chinese bribe money through his crackhead son, investigate & prosecute.  Unfortunately a politicized and unethical DOJ/FBI is only weighing in against one side on those above examples and that is clearly apparent now.  I want one country under God with liberty and justice for all.  

Sounds like we're in violent agreement. I just enjoy calling out the right when the opportunity presents itself. The left's transgressions are very obvious and very well-thrashed in this forum, so it's good to be able to play devils advocate sometimes. 

[gearhog]

WTF. Why would Kinzinger lend support to the idea these "Nazis" are federal officers?

 

Edited June 25, 2023 by gearhog

[HeloDude]

“Now I don’t know what this really is” he says…but right before he says it seems like an assault on federal officers.  What a 🤡 

[uhhello]

1 hour ago, gearhog said:

WTF. Why would Kinzinger lend support to the idea these "Nazis" are federal officers?

 

I thought for sure i was going to click on that tweet and it would be deleted.  How strange.

[kaputt]

Adam is a desperate, clout chasing piece of shit of the highest level. 

[smee]

On 3/11/2023 at 4:25 AM, Negatory said:

Projection is a hell of a drug. Maybe some self reflection is in order.

 

While I admit that I shared the same initial curiosity and surprise at the identical coverage, there is a simple explanation that does not involve conspiracy theories (aka spoiler alert).  These are "feed stories" and they're happening more frequently because newsrooms are smaller so more small stations grab stories off the feed for their National pieces.  Problem is they're selecting a story on media bias.  

[nsplayr]

Not quite, it was a forced read of a script distributed by Sinclair Broadcast Group, which owns many local stations. Sinclair has a well known conservative slant in terms of what they prioritize covering, which is not bad per se, but thats not always what folks expect from their super-local news team on the bunny ears stations.

Sinclair compelled the local versions news teams to read this exact script, which might sound decently normal if you just hear it on your local station once, but gets creepier when you know dozens and dozens of stations all were forced to broadcast the exact same bit by their corporate bosses.

Your views of what they actually said in the piece may vary.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/02/business/media/sinclair-news-anchors-script.html