SocialD Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) On 4/14/2017 at 12:58 AM, Gazmo said: If the Air Force could somehow convince the airlines to rewrite the book and do away with a seniority based promotion system alla Emirates. Then people wouldn't be so spring loaded to jump ship for a line number in hopes for accelerated seniority. Then guys would be "promoted" based on how "hard" they work or how much ass they kiss. Expand FIFY. Edited April 14, 2017 by SocialD 1
Guest No2bonus Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) On 4/14/2017 at 5:38 AM, FlyinGrunt said: Ugh. I'll bait him. Chang, I won't even argue with you, but do keep in mind the epic exodus that would occur the second Stop Loss was lifted. It's a net loss, long-term. There's always a better option, unless we start trading nukes with North Korea. And if something like that happens, you won't need Stop Loss - because we ARE patriots, and we WILL stay to defeat the enemy. Insert ad hominem ad infinitum, bitter Cannon comment, and Congressional corruption zinger. Close with incrimination of average American handout taker. Expand If nukes are traded you won't be here anymore. If South Korea and Japan are nuked, we wouldn't be fighting for anything at that point. I highly doubt anybody in the Army or Marines will deploy to a nuclear wasteland to fight a war. You want to die from the medical treatment at the incompetent VA hospital or from radiation exposure? I'm good and I will pass on that patriotism because I've had enough exposure to the burnpits and poo ponds. Edited April 14, 2017 by No2bonus
Hacker Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 On 4/14/2017 at 12:58 AM, Gazmo said: If the Air Force could somehow convince the airlines to rewrite the book and do away with a seniority based promotion system alla Emirates. Then people wouldn't be so spring loaded to jump ship for a line number in hopes for accelerated seniority. Expand The seniority system is the only way to ensure that safety is the #1 factor motivating decisionmaking, vs trying to "look good" for management. 1
General Chang Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 Sockpuppet. Nice. I guess when someone posts a positive thought on these boards, they become trolls & sockpuppets. I do not advocate for stop loss. I merely remind it is always on the table, and despite what Gina said, we are closer now than we have been in many years. If it comes, just jump in with two feet, stay positive, and we will end it as soon as able. For those on AD, I take it you saw the AFPAK Hands solicitation we sent out today. I hope you give strong consideration to volunteering. We are ramping that program back to full capacity. ISIS is altering the battlefield and we must have many, many more air power experts on the ground with long-term continuity. Many carrots to participating: attend NIU for IDE, work at the Pentagon with some of our greatest minds, free language training, and likely early promotions to Lt Col & Col. We will see many of our future Sq/CCs come out of this program, because they will be the most relevant/qualified in the current state of affairs. This is a big deal; don't miss your opportunity. If you really don't want to participate in this program, please encourage your friends who are on the fence. We have a very small vol window and many slots to fill; it will not be long before Wing Commanders will be racking their senior Capts, Maj(s), and Majors (esp post bonus) for these opportunities. 10
WheelsOff Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 On 4/14/2017 at 11:18 PM, General Chang said: For those on AD, I take it you saw the AFPAK Hands solicitation we sent out today. I hope you give strong consideration to volunteering..... ...This is a big deal; don't miss your opportunity. Expand Love those snippets! I'm sold!! Where do I bend over and take it??!
GKinnear Posted April 14, 2017 Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) On 4/14/2017 at 11:18 PM, General Chang said: Sockpuppet. Expand Your satire is on a level of Andy Kaufman if not more so. You need to stop 'cuz the train has left the fvcking rails. Young, impressionable cadets and Lts don't realize you're using a reductio ad absurdum argument style. If it isn't satire and you 100% believe what you post, then you need to take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror and get your priorities revectored. I don't think the Commissars of the Red Army drank that much kool-aid. Our military is the greatest, not because of the equipment, but because of the people...they WANT to be here. Compare present-day vs conscript (draft) heavy days of 'Nam. 180 degrees out from each other. To echo @pawnman and others, when is enough enough? I'd argue that zero time is enough in that no citizen currently is forced to serve. The 4-yr ADSC for new non-rated Os and 4-yr enlistment is to get payback on an investment in training. As soon as they raise the hand and swear an oath, they've done more than 90% of their fellow countrymen. Fvcking Stop with the patriot bullshit argument; it's academically lazy. Most dudes on this board have had bros give it all for the Flag, or have had to stand in formation as the family watched their loved one be ceremoniously transferred off the jet at Dover. The patriotism angle has already be satisfied...move on. My challenge to you still stands; join the RPA force as a 18X Pilot. Pay your dues on the line and then maybe (doubtful) catch a clue. Your post history leads me to believe you couldn't lead a wet sack of dog shit, let alone a group of Airmen. Edited April 14, 2017 by GKinnear I still can't use the word FVCKING? Ludicrous 1
hispeed7721 Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 On 4/14/2017 at 11:18 PM, General Chang said: I guess when someone posts a positive thought on these boards, they become trolls & sockpuppetsAbsolutely not. But you have yet to post anything positive, at least as it relates to anyone other than yourselfSent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums 2
Jenkspaz Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 On 4/14/2017 at 11:18 PM, General Chang said: ... and despite what Gina said, Expand Gina? Seriously? Good lord...
RTB Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 On 4/14/2017 at 11:18 PM, General Chang said: Sockpuppet. Nice. I guess when someone posts a positive thought on these boards, they become trolls & sockpuppets. I do not advocate for stop loss. I merely remind it is always on the table, and despite what Gina said, we are closer now than we have been in many years. If it comes, just jump in with two feet, stay positive, and we will end it as soon as able. For those on AD, I take it you saw the AFPAK Hands solicitation we sent out today. I hope you give strong consideration to volunteering. We are ramping that program back to full capacity. ISIS is altering the battlefield and we must have many, many more air power experts on the ground with long-term continuity. Many carrots to participating: attend NIU for IDE, work at the Pentagon with some of our greatest minds, free language training, and likely early promotions to Lt Col & Col. We will see many of our future Sq/CCs come out of this program, because they will be the most relevant/qualified in the current state of affairs. This is a big deal; don't miss your opportunity. If you really don't want to participate in this program, please encourage your friends who are on the fence. We have a very small vol window and many slots to fill; it will not be long before Wing Commanders will be racking their senior Capts, Maj(s), and Majors (esp post bonus) for these opportunities. Expand Fellas, this dude is clearly just fucking with everyone. Not worth even a second of your time - it's all bullshit. 4
Duck Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 You young-uns need to stop "liking" his posts, it just encourages him.Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums
Hacker Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 Do any of the airlines have an AFPAK Hands program? Mine doesn't. 6
pawnman Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 On 4/14/2017 at 11:18 PM, General Chang said: Sockpuppet. Nice. I guess when someone posts a positive thought on these boards, they become trolls & sockpuppets. I do not advocate for stop loss. I merely remind it is always on the table, and despite what Gina said, we are closer now than we have been in many years. If it comes, just jump in with two feet, stay positive, and we will end it as soon as able. For those on AD, I take it you saw the AFPAK Hands solicitation we sent out today. I hope you give strong consideration to volunteering. We are ramping that program back to full capacity. ISIS is altering the battlefield and we must have many, many more air power experts on the ground with long-term continuity. Many carrots to participating: attend NIU for IDE, work at the Pentagon with some of our greatest minds, free language training, and likely early promotions to Lt Col & Col. We will see many of our future Sq/CCs come out of this program, because they will be the most relevant/qualified in the current state of affairs. This is a big deal; don't miss your opportunity. If you really don't want to participate in this program, please encourage your friends who are on the fence. We have a very small vol window and many slots to fill; it will not be long before Wing Commanders will be racking their senior Capts, Maj(s), and Majors (esp post bonus) for these opportunities. Expand I just watched three dudes at 18 forgo a 20 year retirement to dodge a 365. If you think AFPAK hands is going to help your cause, you are out of your ever-loving mind.
WAG Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 (edited) Christ, people! Chang is a classically trained troller. His last post was a dead giveaway and he probably overplayed his hand. You all take him way too seriously. It's kind of funny actually. Edited April 15, 2017 by WAG meh 1
MooseAg03 Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 4:03 PM, WAG said: Christ, people! Chang is a classically trained troller. His last post was a dead giveaway and he probably overplayed his hand. You all take him way too seriously. It's kind of funny actually.Agreed, it seems he just likes to poke the hornets nest. I'm willing to bet he is a nobody, and referring to Grosso as "Gina" was also a giveaway. Did anyone see that video on FB of Everhart asking AMC airmen for inputs on how to fix the pilot manning? The serious lack of real leadership is almost comical.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
HU&W Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 6:16 PM, MooseAg03 said: Agreed, it seems he just likes to poke the hornets nest. I'm willing to bet he is a nobody, and referring to Grosso as "Gina" was also a giveaway. Expand Concur. My money's on either GS-5 working in some closet at AFPC or a SrA personnelist who failed 4x PT tests and was administratively separated, now living in his mom's basement. Either way, classic troll just churning for a reaction.
ThreeHoler Posted April 15, 2017 Posted April 15, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 8:29 PM, HU&W said: Concur. My money's on either GS-5 working in some closet at AFPC or a SrA personnelist who failed 4x PT tests and was administratively separated, now living in his mom's basement. Either way, classic troll just churning for a reaction.My money is on a pilot trolling everyone. 4
RTB Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 10:13 PM, ThreeHoler said: My money is on a pilot trolling everyone. Expand I'll second that. Gotta be a pilot since he knows exactly how to push everyone's buttons. To whoever is giving voice to Chang, well played sir, well played. 1
hindsight2020 Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 Nah, my money he's a shoe. Doesn't take a pilot to get the pilot lingo. Look at scoobs for fvck's sake, impersonating a Guard/Res pilot since what, 2004?
Guardian Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 4:03 PM, WAG said: Christ, people! Chang is a classically trained troller. His last post was a dead giveaway and he probably overplayed his hand. You all take him way too seriously. It's kind of funny actually.Finkel Ehinhorn. Finkel. Ehinhorn. Ehinhorn finkel. Finkel is Ehinhorn. Chang is Wag?Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums 1
matmacwc Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 On 4/16/2017 at 1:48 AM, HossHarris said: I think it's rainman. Expand Shhhhh, don't wake him. 4
dream big Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 On 4/14/2017 at 11:18 PM, General Chang said: Sockpuppet. Nice. I guess when someone posts a positive thought on these boards, they become trolls & sockpuppets. I do not advocate for stop loss. I merely remind it is always on the table, and despite what Gina said, we are closer now than we have been in many years. If it comes, just jump in with two feet, stay positive, and we will end it as soon as able. For those on AD, I take it you saw the AFPAK Hands solicitation we sent out today. I hope you give strong consideration to volunteering. We are ramping that program back to full capacity. ISIS is altering the battlefield and we must have many, many more air power experts on the ground with long-term continuity. Many carrots to participating: attend NIU for IDE, work at the Pentagon with some of our greatest minds, free language training, and likely early promotions to Lt Col & Col. We will see many of our future Sq/CCs come out of this program, because they will be the most relevant/qualified in the current state of affairs. This is a big deal; don't miss your opportunity. If you really don't want to participate in this program, please encourage your friends who are on the fence. We have a very small vol window and many slots to fill; it will not be long before Wing Commanders will be racking their senior Capts, Maj(s), and Majors (esp post bonus) for these opportunities. Expand Well we know he is at least a 3 star since he is on a first name basis with "Gina" Grosso. 1
RASH Posted April 16, 2017 Posted April 16, 2017 On 4/16/2017 at 2:57 AM, dream big said: Well we know he is at least a 3 star since he is on a first name basis with "Gina" Grosso.Or he is Gina...Sent from my iPad using Baseops Network Forums 2
General Chang Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 On 4/14/2017 at 11:51 PM, GKinnear said: Your satire is on a level of Andy Kaufman if not more so. You need to stop 'cuz the train has left the fvcking rails. Young, impressionable cadets and Lts don't realize you're using a reductio ad absurdum argument style. Expand Greg, You are right. I am sorry. 2
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