Tailhook's fallout will be tame compared to this, I'm thinking

[VMFA187]

On 3/20/2017 at 6:07 AM, skibum said:

What we're about to see is the pussification of the Marine Corps. There's already talk of changing the tone of Marine recruiting from sharp-edged, combat focused to moral citizenship. Marine commercials used to make me secretly ashamed of the AF (now I'm publicly ashamed) because they focused on fighting while we focused on social studies. Now, I'm afraid our last bastion of real warfighter mentality is about to get castrated.

Time will tell. It won't be this event - Occurrences like these only make things our leaders in the past did for fun completely off limits for current service members. What will really have an adverse effect is allowing everyone to attempt to do every MOS regardless of their abilities its effect on our combat capabilities.

[Ram]

7 hours ago, bluedevil said:

"A U.S. Air Force Captain stationed at Cape Canaveral was called a "slam dunk" by Judd after he was arrested following graphic online conversations with a detective who posed as a 14 year-old.

According to Sheriff Judd, Captain Dirk Watson,32, had told his family that he would not travel for a family vacation to Disney World. Instead, he was chatting with the detective and agreed to meet the individual whom he thought was a minor.

Judd said that Watson showed up to engage in sexual acts with the minor and was in possession of devices to use during intercourse.
Watson faces four felony charges for use of a computer to seduce a child, use of two-way communication device to commit felony, traveling to meet a minor and lewd molestation. He could have additional charges following the investigation."

https://www.google.com/amp/www.wtsp.com/amp/news/local/104-arrested-in-polk-prostitution-operation/424171092


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Complete with a Mustache March pedostache mugshot.  You can't make this shit up.

[M2]

Incoming!

Air Force Investigating Social Media Allegations

Lt. Gen. Gina Grosso, deputy chief of staff for manpower, told Congress Tuesday the Air Force is “investigating allegations regarding information and inappropriate photographs of airmen posted on websites without their prior consent.” The investigation follows the March 4 revelation that a Marines United Facebook group was used by male service members to post nude or inappropriate photos of female service members. While refusing to comment in detail on an ongoing investigation, Grosso told the House Military Personnel Subcommittee that, “to date we have not found a site specifically dedicated to denigrating female airmen.” Other military officials told the subcommittee about the existence of sites containing inappropriate photos of members of all US military services. Referring to Title 10, article 120c of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, dealing with “other sexual misconduct,” Grosso told the committee that, in the past, the Air Force has “used Article 120 to hold airmen accountable” for the distribution of social media imagery of another airman, what she called “revenge porn.” She said the Air Force has training aimed at clarifying existing policy for all airmen and that “from an accountability perspective, we condemn these inappropriate acts.” She said the service was “considering additional authorities” to deal out appropriate consequences to any airmen who might be found responsible.

[Seriously]

On ‎3‎/‎22‎/‎2017 at 1:20 PM, Ram said:

Complete with a Mustache March pedostache mugshot.  You can't make this shit up.

How could someone with a perfectly in regs mustache do such a thing?

[HerkFE]

2 hours ago, Seriously said:

How could someone with a perfectly in regs mustache do such a thing?

He probably was not up to date on his CBT's. Probably did PME by correspondence.

[ClearedHot]

How much longer until the All Call with the boss punishing everyone for the crimes of others, I see group discussions, reflection days and new case study videos and CBTs right around the corner.

 

[SocialD]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

How much longer until the All Call with the boss punishing everyone for the crimes of others...

On of my biggest pet peeves with military leadership. 

[M2]

The "one person shits their pants, so everyone has to wear diapers" leadership approach.  Classic response.

[pawnman]

Found a thoughtful piece on the whole thing over at War on the Rocks.  It goes beyond the knee-jerk reactions (from both sides) and encourages some reflection that the military comes from the larger society, and as the things that society accepts change, so do the things the military is willing to accept.  There's also quite a bit of condemnation for the USMC's mentality that only men should be on the front lines.

Edited March 27, 2017 by pawnman

[redshift2020]

You guys want to know the opinion of someone who is not in the military? Those female marines and sailors only have themselves to blame. Two generations ago making videos of sexual acts was simply not something that you did and to be honest if they never wanted others to see their nasty then they should of never allowed themselves to be filmed, taken the pictures themselves (selfies and sending them around), etc.

Basically they want to be a sloot and then wonder why the man didn't respect them. No man respects a sloot, we dont wife sloots and certainly don't bring them home. That's why the pics were shared on a private FB group.

End of the day the V is the more valuable commodity and they have an obligation to protect it. It's called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. The only ones responsible are the women who shared the pics expecting that they would never be seen by another soul, that's stupid and that's not human nature. Especially when you're not with that crazy chick anymore and you show your buddies how much of a freak she was for a laugh.

They want to take what makes a man a man. The sooner the military stands up to these crusading feminist and just say what needs to be said to them, "take responsibility for yourselves!" The better.

I honestly don't know why the DoD (including USMC, AF, and USN) wants to turn it's house upside down to placate a bunch of raging feminist because some sloots made a bj video or send snaps of her snaps. It's so STUPID!

[FlyinGrunt]

On 3/12/2017 at 5:44 PM, waveshaper said:

A couple of my theories on this subject (sarcasm, i think/yes i'm currently violating GO#1 ROE's);

Theory #1. This "problem" might be a subtle indicator of some of the negative effects from 26 years of fighting wars in countries where the troops can't blow off steam, drink or chase skirt. Also, General Order Number #1 hasn't been good for morale, etc. 

Hope my sarcasm detector isn't inop, but did you read the TAP article?  A large number aren't hardened combat vets, but POGs themselves with no combat or deployment experience.  This is just misogyny at its worst. 

[FlyinGrunt]

redshift: While I hate the Air Force, I have one very appropriate credo: Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.  You, clearly, have no such moral compunction.

Your words, while making some rational points about risk management, are completely fvcking off base when it comes to whether what these Marines did was right.  How would you feel if one of these women was your daughter?  Your sister?  Your wife?

Your attitude disgusts me, and I for one would move for banning you for it.  That having been said, I doubt our mods would be willing to do so for a single post.

Fix yourself.

[SurelySerious]

[tk1313]

5 hours ago, redshift2020 said:

Secondly it's not off base because guess what, nudes of my wife do not exist. They can't be shared because, wow there isn't a nude to speak of.

My condolences.

Leaking stuff after a breakup is a b!tch move, though. Just nail all of her hot friends like a normal person.

[Toro]

Redshift is now in time out.  You may now resume rational discussion.

ETA:  I've left his original post and responses to that post, but deleted all subsequent posts and responses to those posts.  As you were...

[Kiloalpha]

14 hours ago, redshift2020 said:

You guys want to know the opinion of someone who is not in the military? Those female marines and sailors only have themselves to blame. Two generations ago making videos of sexual acts was simply not something that you did and to be honest if they never wanted others to see their nasty then they should of never allowed themselves to be filmed, taken the pictures themselves (selfies and sending them around), etc.

Basically they want to be a sloot and then wonder why the man didn't respect them. No man respects a sloot, we dont wife sloots and certainly don't bring them home. That's why the pics were shared on a private FB group.

End of the day the V is the more valuable commodity and they have an obligation to protect it. It's called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. The only ones responsible are the women who shared the pics expecting that they would never be seen by another soul, that's stupid and that's not human nature. Especially when you're not with that crazy chick anymore and you show your buddies how much of a freak she was for a laugh.

They want to take what makes a man a man. The sooner the military stands up to these crusading feminist and just say what needs to be said to them, "take responsibility for yourselves!" The better.

I honestly don't know why the DoD (including USMC, AF, and USN) wants to turn it's house upside down to placate a bunch of raging feminist because some sloots made a bj video or send snaps of her snaps. It's so STUPID!

Dont tell me, that Brock Turner rapist dude from Stanford got a BaseOps account.

You need help my friend. Where I come from, you'd get the sh!t beat out of you for talking like that about women.

[matmacwc]

Whats a sloot?

[TreeA10]

It's a type of gambling machine in Glasgow, Scotland. "Ah lost a wee bit ina sloot machine."

Edited March 31, 2017 by TreeA10

[redshift2020]

Gentleman, I apologize for derailing the thread. All I meant was that one cannot control what happens to something once it leaves your possession and direct control, it is unfortunate and wrong that these women were taken advantage of and exploited, hopefully they will be more careful in the future.

I definitely don't view women this way, it was a poorly constructed post meant to demonstrate personal accountability, however I did not take into consideration my audience and how words, thoughts or ideals will translate over the internet on a forum, especially when using less than professional vocabulary. It was not meant to be literal or a reflection of my character or person, more about what folks will do, that you can't control.

I sincerely apologize for any alarm this caused. Please forgive me for making a mistake that I certainly will not repeat in the future, hope you all have a great day.

Redshift, is hooking south for green vector.

[Duck]

OSI has stepped up their game.

Reminds me of a time when I was deployed and saw a no $hit 9 walk into the chow hall (a 1 for those that use binary) in those tight little booty shorts they sell at the clothing store and a circulation killing PT shirt. No reflective belt (should have been my first red flag). Give her the obligatory hey how ya doing and go about my day.

Next day getting chow hall getting ready to fly and same chick walks in with the grandma PT shorts and a baggy PT shirt with a nice green reflective belt that said... SARC.

They are everywhere boys, guard your corn holes.


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OSI has stepped up their game.

Reminds me of a time when I was deployed and saw a no $hit 9 walk into the chow hall (a 1 for those that use binary) in those tight little booty shorts they sell at the clothing store and a circulation killing PT shirt. No reflective belt (should have been my first red flag). Give her the obligatory hey how ya doing and go about my day.

Next day getting chow hall getting ready to fly and same chick walks in with the grandma PT shorts and a baggy PT shirt with a nice green reflective belt that said... SARC.

They are everywhere boys, guard your corn holes.


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Pics or it didn't happen.


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[pawnman]

I'm unclear.  Is THIS an example of good PR and the story of a hard-working individual who has had success?  Or is it the exploitation of a woman for her looks because she's posing in a bikini?  I can't tell under the current guidance anymore.

[waveshaper]

21 hours ago, matmacwc said:

Whats a sloot?

Here's one example-Scud Bunker A.K.A. Sloot Bunker (true story); Long ago, I attended a Force Protection meeting chaired by the Wing Commander (BGEN) at a certain AO location. One of the FP issues identified was that the Security Forces were spending way to much of their time pointing the perimeter cameras (at night) toward the inside of the camp. The Security Forces seemed to be obsessed with couples going into the Sloot Bunkers at night to fornicate. The Wing Commander order the SF CC to turn his damn cameras around and focus on the perimeter. He also recommended putting free condom dispensers in the Sloot Bunkers. 

[Hacker]

1 hour ago, pawnman said:

I'm unclear.  Is THIS an example of good PR and the story of a hard-working individual who has had success?  Or is it the exploitation of a woman for her looks because she's posing in a bikini?  I can't tell under the current guidance anymore.

It has been a couple years since I've been lectured by the SARC and the SJA, but I believe that what I've been taught is that you are, in fact, a rapist, and you violated the UCMJ and sexually assaulted her simply by looking at the photos.

[Prozac]

19 hours ago, Duck said:

 a no $hit 9 

I call bullshit. Everybody knows a desert 9 is at best a 6 in the real world.