Syrian Su-22 Shot Down by US Aircraft

[HuggyU2]

8 hours ago, matmacwc said:

Growler shoots down a fitter,

Don't think so.  

[waveshaper]

F-15E Shoots Down Another Armed Drone in Syria;

"The armed pro-regime Shaheed-129 [unmanned aerial vehicle] was shot down by a U.S. F-15E Strike Eagle at approximately 12:30 a.m. after it displayed hostile intent and advanced on Coalition forces," the command said in a release.

Officials said coalition forces were patrolling an established combat outpost to the northeast of At Tanf, where they're training and advising partner ground forces in the fight against ISIS.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/06/20/f-15e-shoots-down-another-armed-drone-in-syria.html

Edited June 20, 2017 by waveshaper

[VMFA187]

Looks like I showed up to the party a year too early. Shame.

[HuggyU2]

https://article107news.com/real-reason-navy-not-air-force-got-first-air-air-kill-since-desert-storm/

 

[JS]

8 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

https://article107news.com/real-reason-navy-not-air-force-got-first-air-air-kill-since-desert-storm/

 

That was pretty funny.  My favorite: " I get paid to make the hard decisions, and I owe it to our gender non conforming Airpersons to make sure everyone feels special."

 

Haha, Airpersons. 

[Lawman]

So if (hypothetical) there were US imbeds with the SDF on the ground there, and the SU-22 in question made runs on them resulting in the shoot down...

Does that qualify as breaking the streak of "No US troops have come under air attack since the Korean War" Air Dominance tag line we always hear?

[FourFans]

2 hours ago, Lawman said:

So if (hypothetical) there were US imbeds with the SDF on the ground there, and the SU-22 in question made runs on them resulting in the shoot down...

Does that qualify as breaking the streak of "No US troops have come under air attack since the Korean War" Air Dominance tag line we always hear?

Does this count?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/06/14/isis-drones-are-attacking-u-s-troops-and-disrupting-airstrikes-in-raqqa-officials-say/?utm_term=.5042b8070eee

[waveshaper]

41 minutes ago, FourFans130 said:

Does this count?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/06/14/isis-drones-are-attacking-u-s-troops-and-disrupting-airstrikes-in-raqqa-officials-say/?utm_term=.5042b8070eee

One more to add to the "does this count" list?  Five A-37's, flown by a RVNAF defector and some VPAF pilots, bombed/strafed Tan Son Nhut Air Base?

On the afternoon of April 28, 1975, Trung (RVNAF defector) led a flight of five A-37 fighter-bombers against Tan Son Nhut Air Base, which temporarily stopped U.S. and South Vietnamese evacuation efforts. Luckily only 3 AC-119s and several C-47s were destroyed. Also, defector Trung preferred to use the F-5 for Presidential Palace bombing missions.

 

[tac airlifter]

1 hour ago, FourFans130 said:

Does this count?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/06/14/isis-drones-are-attacking-u-s-troops-and-disrupting-airstrikes-in-raqqa-officials-say/?utm_term=.5042b8070eee

That definitely counts.  

[Breckey]

Also don't forget about the AN-2 bombing of Lima Site 85 in Laos.

[waveshaper]

Does the US Navy count as "Ground Troops"? The 1972 Battle of Dong Hoi. One MiG-17F scored a direct hit on the destroyer USS Higbee with a BETAB-250 (250 kg/551 lb) bomb, after failing to hit its target twice on two previous attack runs. The explosion destroyed the aft 5-inch (127 mm) gun mount. Another MiG-17 simultaneously aimed its bombs at the cruiser USS Oklahoma City but it was a near miss and only caused minor damage to the ships stern. Total US casualties = 4.

Also, Turkey has made a few attempts recently to bomb/shell/attack US backed SDF troops (with US forces in close proximity to these attacks) in Syria. It might be time to update Article 5 to cover how NATO will respond when one NATO country attacks forces from another NATO country.

Edited June 23, 2017 by waveshaper

[Lawman]

Good stuff.

See I feel like the guys that keep spouting that mantra ought to do a better job of shutting up and highlighting incidents like this.

Probably the worst enemy of our continued evolution and reinvestment into the force is our own "we are invincible!" PR campaign. Even amongst our own commanders I can tell you a high population of the Army leadership simply doesn't even view air superiority as something we will ever go to war without much less a trend we should keep allocating research toward improving.


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[uhhello]

41 minutes ago, Lawman said:

Good stuff.

See I feel like the guys that keep spouting that mantra ought to do a better job of shutting up and highlighting incidents like this.

Probably the worst enemy of our continued evolution and reinvestment into the force is our own "we are invincible!" PR campaign. Even amongst our own commanders I can tell you a high population of the Army leadership simply doesn't even view air superiority as something we will ever go to war without much less a trend we should keep allocating research toward improving.


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Bravo

[ThreeHoler]

Saw an article that the first shot (AIM-9X) missed but the AIM-120 second shot hit.

[viper154]

Got to watch the HUD video today, deff worth hitting up your intel shop, just for the pure "f**k ya!!" Factor. 

Edited June 24, 2017 by viper154

[brickhistory]

2 hours ago, ThreeHoler said:

Saw an article that the first shot (AIM-9X) missed but the AIM-120 second shot hit.

Gives a little more meaning to:

"Copy shot...pK miss."

"Copy second shot...copy kill"

[Lawman]

Got to watch the HUD video today, deff worth hitting up your intel shop, just for the pure "f**k ya!!" Factor. 

Not to mention getting your daily dose of "Merica!"


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[Clark Griswold]

Unclass footage released

 

[FourFans]

Open source speculations are always fun.

https://www.combataircraft.net/2017/06/23/how-did-a-30-year-old-su-22-defeat-a-modern-aim-9x/

Also a neat quick read about the red eagles from an embedded link on that page (where did Steve Davies go?):

https://aviationweek.com/blog/we-didn-t-know-what-90-percent-switches-did

[HerkDerka]

[Steve Davies]

On 6/26/2017 at 8:11 AM, FourFans130 said:

Also a neat quick read about the red eagles from an embedded link on that page (where did Steve Davies go?):

Lurking. 

[Breckey]

On 6/23/2017 at 3:58 PM, ThreeHoler said:

Saw an article that the first shot (AIM-9X) missed but the AIM-120 second shot hit.

Assessment of this is on the Air Dominance blog on SIPR.

[M2]

12 hours ago, Breckey said:

Assessment of this is on the Air Dominance blog on SIPR.

Do us all a favor and post the link on the BaseOps SIPRNET Intellipedia page (yes, there is one!)...

[Bender]

Sometimes I feel like the SIPRNet is like the dark web...if you don't know where you're going, you ain't going anywhere fast.

Bendy


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[Warrior]

Intelink.sgov.gov


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