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45 minutes ago, hindsight2020 said:

Is Tinker depot part 145 though? I understand y'all are majority civil servants, but isn't Tinker still mickey mouse AF MX run, to include military procedural fucketry standard? Genuinely curious, wife's born/grew up in Midwest City and I dropped more BUFFs at TIK that I care to recall, so I'm familiar with the area.

No it is not, the FAA has no authority here. We are set up in a Group with AMXS Sq's for each MDS. Standard USAF MX rules as per AFI 121-101. Backshop units are in a Commodities Sq. Buffoonery and Fuckery  in abundance, some of us actually fix jets to so we can sleep at night. If these jets were at other contractors sights they would go by part 145 rules and have also a GFR (for tool control)and DCMA witnessing and signing after each critical phase of MX. But most of us have a Airframe and Powerplant certificate to at least get us a job. Was working the part 145 side for awhile but I prefer steady work and paychecks, chasing contract after contract gets old. 

But fret not there are scores of us who care about what we do and we know who doesn't, with the civil servant rules it takes ages to fire a employee.

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11 hours ago, JeremiahWeed said:

I remember that fire drop video.  That was quick and instant, for the most part.  Unfortunately, not the case with this break-up starting at FL200.  Quick and instant to a point of unrecoverable failure, yes - but 2-3 final minutes I wouldn't wish on anyone

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Fly safe out there, ladies and gents...it might get repetitive sometimes, but it still "ain't no puss game." :beer:

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https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/07/10/feds-say-air-force-employee-skipped-key-maintenance-ahead-of-2017-plane-crash-killed-16-troops.html?ESRC=eb_240711.nl&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2aYuP4dx40AEGCdvFby-cJ85a4nLyb8862tbzesJeuXgtClbJngMjT77w_aem_b1KK4rHB8GUW54vqrriC2A

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USAF civilian SPO engineer approved multiple deviations to propeller maintenance procedures between 2011-2013. Then lied about it and concealed records from federal investigators during the investigation following the 2017 mishap.


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1 hour ago, Dapper Dan Man said:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/07/10/feds-say-air-force-employee-skipped-key-maintenance-ahead-of-2017-plane-crash-killed-16-troops.html?ESRC=eb_240711.nl&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2aYuP4dx40AEGCdvFby-cJ85a4nLyb8862tbzesJeuXgtClbJngMjT77w_aem_b1KK4rHB8GUW54vqrriC2A

Summary:

USAF civilian SPO engineer approved multiple deviations to propeller maintenance procedures between 2011-2013. Then lied about it and concealed records from federal investigators during the investigation following the 2017 mishap.


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What a fag.   He needs to fly a herk that falls to pieces as his punishment.   No parachute either. 

We (military aviators) trust mx to do their job.  As a prior 2A753, I am appalled that a mx dude let this happen to his boys (aircrew).   Even if you're a backshop depot dude, your job is important.    Don't lie about mx records.  Please.  

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On 7/11/2024 at 10:48 AM, Biff_T said:

What a fag.   He needs to fly a herk that falls to pieces as his punishment.   No parachute either. 

We (military aviators) trust mx to do their job.  As a prior 2A753, I am appalled that a mx dude let this happen to his boys (aircrew).   Even if you're a backshop depot dude, your job is important.    Don't lie about mx records.  Please.  

Yep, and while I can't say for sure I wouldn't be surprised that higher ups were putting pressure to sign off to make some kind production quota. 

Then when the world goes to hell they never heard of him. That said there should have been at least 2 signatures on the 202 approving the waiver and it seems it was repeatedly signed off over a number of years.

I bet a lot more will come out in the coming weeks.

 

 

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Maybe not the issue in this case, but IMHO the product out of WR (probably all the depots for that matter) took

a sharp turn south when TQM became the USAF hot thang & the QA depts were decimated in the early 90s 🤔

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