What is right with the Air Force

[Lawman]

Absolutely need more flying hours, as most of the young guy issues are lacking airmanship and decision making skills (specifically decision making while handling an aircraft in a real, dynamic environment…e.g. cannot be replicated in a sim). From a tactical proficiency perspective, we need sims to take a 6-9 year leap yesterday. 5G perspective: In a perfect world we’d train to missionized stuff primarily in the sim environment and do primarily part-task training in live fly. 
 
Bottom line: more flying needed, but also need meaningful sim training environments that are accessible daily at the wing level.

MACE

That program can do more to bring not just your sims but the ground and wider battle space into a shared environment faster than any other thing available, but because it didn’t start as some PMs pet project it’s like god damn kryptonite every time we put it up to leadership.

Somehow it’s ok we made the guys at Palantir billionaires overnight and F me when Anduril goes public, but BSI that’s somehow verboten.


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[Tarawa565]

2 hours ago, brabus said:

Absolutely need more flying hours, as most of the young guy issues are lacking airmanship and decision making skills (specifically decision making while handling an aircraft in a real, dynamic environment…e.g. cannot be replicated in a sim). From a tactical proficiency perspective, we need sims to take a 6-9 year leap yesterday. 5G perspective: In a perfect world we’d train to missionized stuff primarily in the sim environment and do primarily part-task training in live fly. 
 

Bottom line: more flying needed, but also need meaningful sim training environments that are accessible daily at the wing level.

My contention for sim vs. flying is that the optimum would be something like "go brief up motherhood / tac admin / tactics for an OCA mission, go out and do a fight tank fight of BFM, come back and jump into the sim to actually do the OCA mission, then spend 15 minutes debriefing all the admin / BFM before actually debriefing the OCA." 
 

Too many people want to push stuff into the sim - which is needed - but you need young folks to just get hours. Go XC or whatever, but people need to fly. 

As an aside, I'll say it was shocking going through a 4th gen Guard B course (everyone with >1000 hours and an experienced IP) before doing a 5th gen active duty TX (half of the people TX->IPUG types with few hours in the jet). Night and day in terms of instructional quality. Even if the students were the same quality, the B course instruction would result in a different product. 

[brabus]

2 hours ago, Tarawa565 said:

Too many people want to push stuff into the sim - which is needed - but you need young folks to just get hours. Go XC or whatever, but people need to fly. 

Definitely,  guys in my position are not advocating for “push it all to the sim” at the cost of air under ass. But we do need guys to get proper levels of training for the missionized stuff, and right now they are not getting that in live fly. Lots of local part task training flying can still happen in conjunction with what sims should be. The two do not have to be mutually exclusive.

[quote]As an aside, I'll say it was shocking going through a 4th gen Guard B course (everyone with >1000 hours and an experienced IP) before doing a 5th gen active duty TX (half of the people TX->IPUG types with few hours in the jet). Night and day in terms of instructional quality. Even if the students were the same quality, the B course instruction would result in a different product.[/quote]

Absolutely. Way too many inexperienced IPs in AETC on the 5G side at least, been gone from 4G too long to have any pulse on that. 
 

Edited December 31, 2024 by brabus

[Clark Griswold]

5 hours ago, brabus said:

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Bottom line: more flying needed…

Agreed 

I won’t post my umpteenth COA on UPT or a post UPT flying new program but I think the need is out there and it just needs the right guy still in and not some rando going by Clark Griswold to make the case

[brabus]

“Sorry guys, we can’t afford more flying hours because we have to spend trillions on meaningless shit. Do more with less, aim high!” - Some asshat 4 star

[Clark Griswold]

Edited December 31, 2024 by Clark Griswold

[Sua Sponte]

40 minutes ago, brabus said:

“Sorry guys, we can’t afford more flying hours because we have to spend trillions on meaningless shit. Do more with less, aim high!” - AMC Commanders the past decade 

Corrected for accuracy.