The new airline thread

[gearhog]

15 minutes ago, SurelySerious said:

Unless the autonomy is developing itself, there will be jobs; the real question is will people be willing to adapt? 

Pilots, burger flippers, journalists, boat captains, retailers, taxi drivers, truck drivers:

 

Edited February 17, 2019 by torqued

[SurelySerious]

20 minutes ago, torqued said:

Pilots, burger flippers, journalists, boat captains, retailers, taxi drivers, truck drivers:

 

You can sink or swim. Your choice. 

[jazzdude]

Pilots, burger flippers, journalists, boat captains, retailers, taxi drivers, truck drivers:

 

Uhoh...

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/603381/ai-software-learns-to-make-ai-software/


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[gearhog]

3 hours ago, SurelySerious said:

You can sink or swim. Your choice. 

You should run for office with that campaign slogan. 

😆

[uhhello]

5 hours ago, SurelySerious said:

Unless the autonomy is developing itself, there will be jobs; the real question is will people be willing to adapt? 

That's hilarious.  1 job for every 50 lost at best case.

[Hacker]

5 hours ago, torqued said:

Living in a country 10-20 years from now where tens of millions of people have lost their careers due to automation and have become poor, desperate, and angry because we didn't get in front of it would also suck. 

Just like when the internal combustion engine but the entire horse-transportation industry, the entire steam engine industry, and others out of work forever...the world was never able to recover.

[uhhello]

15 minutes ago, Hacker said:

Just like when the internal combustion engine but the entire horse-transportation industry, the entire steam engine industry, and others out of work forever...the world was never able to recover.

There were operators at the controls of both of those industries.  

[fire4effect]

13 hours ago, M2 said:

Speaking of robots, anyone else notice this?

A Navy Ship Sailed to Hawaii and Back With No One on Board
 

Actually saw another article on the same subject recently. When a lot of these things start getting fielded by different countries (depending on cost) I see the sea based leg of the triad in for a tougher time. Though I hope they don't overly rely on GPS for navigation as that's a whole lot of systems weak link. Persistent dwell will be their strength, just like RPAs are now.

[SurelySerious]

2 hours ago, torqued said:

You should run for office with that campaign slogan. 

😆

Grounded in reality, not political feel goodism. I’ve had two siblings make major career changes as adults so far. Let politicians spew BS. 

1 hour ago, uhhello said:

That's hilarious.  1 job for every 50 lost at best case.

That’s just apocalyptic speculation at best, like a Malthusian catastrophe for the workforce. 

[gearhog]

5 hours ago, Hacker said:

Just like when the internal combustion engine but the entire horse-transportation industry, the entire steam engine industry, and others out of work forever...the world was never able to recover.

Those poor poor horses.

[gearhog]

6 hours ago, SurelySerious said:

Grounded in reality, not political feel goodism. I’ve had two siblings make major career changes as adults so far. Let politicians spew BS. 

That’s great and I wish it worked like that, but the realism of “Your job is going away. Deal with it.” likely will not get people elected who set policy and create tomorrow’s reality.

[matmacwc]

2 minutes ago, torqued said:

That’s great and I wish it worked like that, but the realism of “Your job is going away. Deal with it.” likely will not get people elected who set policy and create tomorrow’s reality.

We have another thread for that.  Not this one.

[gearhog]

22 minutes ago, matmacwc said:

We have another thread for that.  Not this one.

Please move the above comments to the other thread.

[M2]

21 hours ago, Hacker said:

Just like when the internal combustion engine but the entire horse-transportation industry, the entire steam engine industry, and others out of work forever...the world was never able to recover.

One of my favorite quotes...

[so.it.goes]

One of my favorite quotes...

Yes... Yes, THE would have.

[pelexecute]

UAL vs SWA?  Haven’t had one of these measuring contests in awhile. Are the recent SWA problems anything to consider for those of us hoping to go there?

Edited February 22, 2019 by pelexecute

[gearhog]

5 hours ago, pelexecute said:

UAL vs SWA?  Haven’t had one of these measuring contests in awhile. Are the recent SWA problems anything to consider for those of us hoping to go there?

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-worlds-largest-airline-companies/

What problems?

[matmacwc]

I have friends happy at both, SWA would be a bit like Groundhog Day but I’m just guessing.

[pelexecute]

2 hours ago, torqued said:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-worlds-largest-airline-companies/

What problems?

Thinking about the relationship between the Mx union and the company. Some other forums have suggested that SWA is trying to play hardball with the Mx union and that they’ll try the same tactics with Pilot’s union next contract. 

[Homestar]

1 hour ago, matmacwc said:

I have friends happy at both, SWA would be a bit like Groundhog Day but I’m just guessing.

I thrive on bland predictability! 😂

[Hacker]

3 hours ago, matmacwc said:

I have friends happy at both, SWA would be a bit like Groundhog Day but I’m just guessing.

Although the "regional airline flying on a major airline pay scale" thing isn't really my cup o' tea, I have a neighbor who has been at SWA for about 8 years now and he loves it.

Lives in base (Vegas), bids reserve, and at least during the non-summer months, doesn't appear to do much work at all.  Every time I go running past his house, he is out in his garage restoring a late 60s Mustang. He loves it and makes fun of me for (apparently) only flying nights and working too much, at that.

Different strokes.

[Gazmo]

Although the "regional airline flying on a major airline pay scale" thing isn't really my cup o' tea, I have a neighbor who has been at SWA for about 8 years now and he loves it.
Lives in base (Vegas), bids reserve, and at least during the non-summer months, doesn't appear to do much work at all.  Every time I go running past his house, he is out in his garage restoring a late 60s Mustang. He loves it and makes fun of me for (apparently) only flying nights and working too much, at that.
Different strokes.

Living in base on SCR with any of the larger companies is going to net you a pretty good QOL no matter what equipment you're on, especially if you can settle in 30-60 min away from the airport.

[Bergman]

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/20/696198626/southwest-grounds-planes-blames-labor-dispute-with-the-union

[FUSEPLUG]

7 minutes ago, joe1234 said:

Generally, SWA is good for people who want to fly a lot, work hard, and earn a ton of money. UAL is good for lazy people who want the most time off possible while still earning a ton of money.

Do you work for Southwest?  Honest question only because I can't say I've ever "worked hard" at SWA.

Edited February 22, 2019 by FUSEPLUG
edit for auto-correct

[FUSEPLUG]

Point made...

Don't choose a company based on the current labor relations (Pilots, FAs, AMTs, etc).  That shit is so cyclical you'll never be able to keep up even when you work for the company.

Look back at the overarching theme of this thread.... go with the first company that puts you in class and do your best to avoid a commute.