ThreeHoler Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 We had a problem with someone in my Sq who had a dual citizenship...I think he had to renounce his non-US citizenship, but I'm not 100% sure. You may want to look into it if it is a factor in your case. 1
Gravedigger Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 We had a problem with someone in my Sq who had a dual citizenship...I think he had to renounce his non-US citizenship, but I'm not 100% sure. You may want to look into it if it is a factor in your case. We had the same thing happen to a couple Airmen in my SQ, they had Kuwaiti and American citizenship with Secret clearances. When they were going up for TS, they had to renounce their Kuwaiti citizenship.
Masshole Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 I wasn't born in the US either, so it's nothing to worry about it. Just do your best to include as much info on your application as possible, and be sure not to omit any negative information that may apply... Cheers! M2 Thanks. It says it goes back ten years or to when I was 18, whichever is shorter. Well, there is not much separation between me and 18, so will they only run a background check for the last year or so? That makes it a lot easier if that is the case. I do not know if I have any negative information, other than I was born in a dirty commie country. Just tell them it is too difficult to track down the info they want. Should be no problem. Nothing bad could possibly happen. We had a problem with someone in my Sq who had a dual citizenship...I think he had to renounce his non-US citizenship, but I'm not 100% sure. You may want to look into it if it is a factor in your case. I was adopted, so I am a naturalized citizen. Everything is pretty normal, but if they want to go back ten years, I am not sure how to get them contact info for people that knew me there.
ThreeHoler Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 All you need are names and last known addresses. The investigators are pretty good about tracking down your references.
Standby Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 All you need are names and last known addresses. The investigators are pretty good about tracking down your references. I had an investigator call me trying to schedule an interview for a bro getting his TS. Long story short, we arranged a meeting at the base library. After waiting for 45 minutes I called to ask WTF she was, to which she replied "I'm at the library." Turns out she was the base library from my old duty station...awesome.
brickhistory Posted October 1, 2011 Posted October 1, 2011 'Fess up. "I forgot," or "I didn't know I needed to write that down back then," or whatever now, but getting "outed" after the fact is always (nearly anyway) than admitting it yourself. The intent is to show you are trustworthy. Lieing from the get go pretty much answers the basic question of that.
Butters Posted October 1, 2011 Posted October 1, 2011 Ok, so I know I'm reviving a thread thats better left dead and gone but i just gotta ask.. When I enlisted a few years ago I declared that I used MJ a handful of times and I put it on my AF 2030, no biggie. but now that I'm up for my TS investigation I'm starting to feel like there may be "hiccups" along the way. everyone has just said "BE HONEST" wich I completely understand and is what I intend to do, but What If *hypothetically* being 100% truthful with the investigator somewhat contradicts what I put down when I enlisted? I just want to get some input because I'm certainly not trying to pull any funny business, Im just trying to get my TS and move on... You know, lots of people used MJ during his life. But he is dead now so just let it go. 1
Herk Driver Posted October 1, 2011 Posted October 1, 2011 It really depends on what the "fess up" info is versus what you told them the first time. But hiding info that they uncover later will only hurt you in the long run. I recently inadvertantly left off some info that has been on every security app I have ever submitted (more than 6, including the last one 5 years ago). It became a huge point of contention even though I could point to every previous questionnaire that had the info. Ultimately, I was able to bolster my contention that this was just an oversight.
gateway Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I just read every post in this thread to try to find an answer to my question, before posting, so I wouldn't get burned haha. At what point in time does a pilot select in the guard fill out their SF-86? I know they're hired for the next fiscal year, that's why i'm wondering. Any input from recently hired guys would be appreciated.
MasterBlaster Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 At what point in time does a pilot select in the guard fill out their SF-86? Recently submited my SF-86 about two months after hire and one month after swearing in. However, I completed the AF-24 with my recruiter on our initial meeting.
BQZip01 Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I just read every post in this thread to try to find an answer to my question, before posting, so I wouldn't get burned haha. At what point in time does a pilot select in the guard fill out their SF-86? I know they're hired for the next fiscal year, that's why i'm wondering. Any input from recently hired guys would be appreciated. Don't sweat it. The fact that you are concerned about it and that you will likely be asked about it when you first arrive on station leads me to believe you'll continue to follow up on it. Nothing prevents you from filling it out now and having it ready when they ask for it. Good luck
tankerbum Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 I just read every post in this thread to try to find an answer to my question, before posting, so I wouldn't get burned haha. At what point in time does a pilot select in the guard fill out their SF-86? I know they're hired for the next fiscal year, that's why i'm wondering. Any input from recently hired guys would be appreciated. Didn't fill my out until getting to my UPT base.
gateway Posted March 6, 2012 Posted March 6, 2012 Didn't fill my out until getting to my UPT base. Interesting, it seems like these things are handled in accordance with the hiring unit, so it's probably going to depend on how the unit has always done things. I ask because in a conversation with two pilot selects, one AD the other Guard, this varied. I wasn't sure if you could just skip it all together until you were done with UPT?.. but then I guess that wouldn't do much good, learning the weapon systems and other sensitive material, or whatnot.
MasterBlaster Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 Interesting, it seems like these things are handled in accordance with the hiring unit, so it's probably going to depend on how the unit has always done things. I ask because in a conversation with two pilot selects, one AD the other Guard, this varied. I wasn't sure if you could just skip it all together until you were done with UPT?.. but then I guess that wouldn't do much good, learning the weapon systems and other sensitive material, or whatnot. This is what I've heard: AMS - initial background check must reveal no major issues / UPT - Secret Clearance required / RTU - Top Secret required. (However, looks like gbu24loaders experience doesn't support that.) I'd speak with your SQ's Security Manager.
itsokimapilot Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 Interesting, it seems like these things are handled in accordance with the hiring unit, so it's probably going to depend on how the unit has always done things. I ask because in a conversation with two pilot selects, one AD the other Guard, this varied. I wasn't sure if you could just skip it all together until you were done with UPT?.. but then I guess that wouldn't do much good, learning the weapon systems and other sensitive material, or whatnot. There really shouldn't be a difference. Just fill out the paperwork when asked. Unless there is something you are worried about that happened about nine years ago that will fall off the radar in the next year. If that's the case then I don't know what to tell you, except tell the truth and good luck.
Guest Posted March 7, 2012 Posted March 7, 2012 Unless there is something you are worried about that happened about nine years ago that will fall off the radar in the next year. If that's the case then I don't know what to tell you, except tell the truth and good luck. Uh oh...
gateway Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) There really shouldn't be a difference. Just fill out the paperwork when asked. Unless there is something you are worried about that happened about nine years ago that will fall off the radar in the next year. If that's the case then I don't know what to tell you, except tell the truth and good luck. haha okay. It's nothing like that, no need to get bent out of shape. I'm not sweatin' a thing.. edited for wording Edited March 8, 2012 by gateway
Guest Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 haha okay. It's nothing like that, no need to get bent out of shape. I'm not sweatin' a thing.. He said with a nervous laugh.
ViperDriver114 Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 Hey guys, I'm sure this is not a big deal, but I thought Id ask anyway. I am just about to fill out and send in the SF-86 for my clearance. As my luck would have it, I got my first speeding ticket last friday (Taking the STOP class on 8 Sep.) on our way back from flying at my buddy's farm. Like I said, I am sure having one speeding ticket is NOT going to be an issue, I just wonder if it being so recent will raise any flags for the investigators? I assume it shouldn't make a difference but you never know with the fed, so I wanted to throw it out there. Thanks
guineapigfury Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 I dug up my copy of my most recent clearance application. Here's the relevant text in bold: Section 22: Police Record For this item, report information regardless of whether the record in your case has been sealed, expunged, or otherwise stricken from the court record, or the charge was dismissed. You need not report convictions under the Federal Controlled Substances Act for which the court issued an expungement order under the authority of 21 U.S.C. 844 or 18 U.S.C. 3607. Be sure to include all incidents whether occurring in the U.S. or abroad. For questions a and b, respond for the timeframe of the last 7 years (if an SSBI go back 10 years). Exclude any fines of less than $300 for traffic offenses that do not involve alcohol or drugs. You'll be fine. Also, be sure and make multiple copies of the application for your records. You'll need one when you fill out another SF-86 5 years from now, and they need you to list half of the shit all over again so they can investigate it again. Your tax dollars at work.
ViperDriver114 Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 What kind of questions can I (and my references) expect in my character interview? Interview will be sometime before 18 Sept.
ForgotPassword Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 What kind of questions can I (and my references) expect in my character interview? Interview will be sometime before 18 Sept. Depends on what issues you have
Guest Posted August 29, 2012 Posted August 29, 2012 What kind of questions can I (and my references) expect in my character interview? Interview will be sometime before 18 Sept. Stuff like... "Have you ever masturbated in front of a mirror?" And "What is the capital of Vermont?"
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