317 AW (Dyess) commander removed over ‘toxic environment’

[FlyinGrunt]

Too bad ZERO of the other WG/CCs in AFSOC had the balls to follow Palenske.  Zero.

[BashiChuni]

palenske is a true fucking bawse.

dude is the absolute truth.

[viper154]

12 hours ago, FlyinGrunt said:

Too bad ZERO of the other WG/CCs in AFSOC had the balls to follow Palenske.  Zero.

I was rather disappointed the 27th didn’t follow, talking with the wing king last year it seemed he was all about eliminating queep, I figured we would do the same as the 1 SOW. 

[Karl Hungus]

13 hours ago, Skitzo said:

 

 

All he really needs to say is look at Col Palenske at the 1 SOW and march with him.

 

 

Examples?

[Skitzo]

Examples?

 

Just one small example.

 

BL: eliminating CBTs, reducing 12 page outprocessing checklists and giving commanders discretion to upgrade skill levels without the shackles of the 12 month requirement.

 

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2018/05/01/special-operations-wing-gives-commanders-leeway-to-target-queep/

[17D_guy]

7 hours ago, Skitzo said:

 

Just one small example.

 

BL: eliminating CBTs, reducing 12 page outprocessing checklists and giving commanders discretion to upgrade skill levels without the shackles of the 12 month requirement.

 

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2018/05/01/special-operations-wing-gives-commanders-leeway-to-target-queep/

At Hurlburt now for a short stay, what a lovely base.

Isn't this exactly what the CSAF just released a memo on?  Or does 1 SOW predate that and HAF is taking that line?

"The memo said annual mandatory training on cyber awareness, force protection, combating human trafficking and the Green Dot sexual assault and suicide prevention program, which was previously done via CBT, can now be done through mass briefings."

But my Cybers!

Edited May 20, 2018 by 17D_guy

[Skitzo]

At Hurlburt now for a short stay, what a lovely base.
Isn't this exactly what the CSAF just released a memo on?  Or does 1 SOW predate that and HAF is taking that line?
"The memo said annual mandatory training on cyber awareness, force protection, combating human trafficking and the Green Dot sexual assault and suicide prevention program, which was previously done via CBT, can now be done through mass briefings."

But my Cybers!

Sure, but how many sitting wing commanders have taken action on this? That’s the point.

[icohftb]

10 hours ago, Skitzo said:

 

Just one small example.

 

BL: eliminating CBTs, reducing 12 page outprocessing checklists and giving commanders discretion to upgrade skill levels without the shackles of the 12 month requirement.

 

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2018/05/01/special-operations-wing-gives-commanders-leeway-to-target-queep/

Got any "big" examples? Implementing the new CBT policy is good but not sure id consider it that impressive.

[BashiChuni]

i'm pretty big blue jaded...so just trust me that Col P is the real deal.

it's telling that he led the way among wing cc's getting rid of stupid shit.

he can relate to his troops... tells it like it is...and says what everyone is already thinking. cant explain it more than that...but i'd follow that dude anywhere. isn't that what we all want?

Edited May 20, 2018 by BashiChuni

[ClearedHot]

5 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

i'm pretty big blue jaded...so just trust me that Col P is the real deal.

it's telling that he led the way among wing cc's getting rid of stupid shit.

he can relate to his troops... tells it like it is...and says what everyone is already thinking. cant explain it more than that...but i'd follow that dude anywhere. isn't that what we all want?

He is truly a solid dude.  Despite CSAF personally celebrating Tom's efforts to reduce queep, transform social media interaction, and increase readiness...HE WAS NOT SELECTED FOR PROMOTION.  So the status quo will continue and the nutbag bean counters will continue to thrive as GOs.

[nsplayr]

WOW...1 SOW/CC who is being publically cheered by CSAF doesn’t make BG? WTF is up with that??

[M2]

47 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

WOW...1 SOW/CC who is being publically cheered by CSAF doesn’t make BG? WTF is up with that??

Status quo?

[Duck]

I wonder if he knew he wasn’t going to make it or if it was a surprise to him? The blame has to fall with his numbered AF Commander right? I think that’s who writes Wing Commanders PRFs. The AF just can’t get out of its own way.

[tac airlifter]

CH are you sure?  I thought his board was later this year after his change of command.

Duck, no numbered AF in AFSOC.

[Skitzo]

He is truly a solid dude.  Despite CSAF personally celebrating Tom's efforts to reduce queep, transform social media interaction, and increase readiness...HE WAS NOT SELECTED FOR PROMOTION.  So the status quo will continue and the nutbag bean counters will continue to thrive as GOs.

If true, that’s just wrong. Was hoping he would be the A3 at some point. He would have destroyed that position! Follow him anywhere for any mission because he’s a no shit credible aviator and listens to his cc’s.

Downrange he was fantastic as the Exp Wg/CC. Loosely paraphrased “Im not a X/Y/X MDS guy so I’m not going to second guess you, you let me know what you need to execute and if what your being asked to do is dumb let me know I’ll take the hit and back you up”.

Working for separate OPCON, it was a nice sentiment being ADCON only but he was more than willing to walk over to the O6 who did have OPCON and tell them they were jacked on my behalf.

If this is all true, recommend merging it over into the “What’s wrong with the USAF” Thread.

[SuperWSO]

Just read this yesterday. 

I think it belongs here

https://warontherocks.com/2018/05/a-call-for-senior-officer-reform-in-the-air-force-an-insiders-perspective/

[Duck]

Who was his boss?

[backseatdriver]

https://www.hurlburt.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/798252/colonel-thomas-b-palenske/

He's just about to hit 23 years TIS (commissioned in 95), so he still has a year until his pole window for O-7 starts (24-26 years)

Edited May 20, 2018 by backseatdriver

[BashiChuni]

CH that's the first i've heard of that...I'm not sure your info is 100% accurate

but if thats true then its a damn shame. especially knowing who's returning to afsoc soon

[BADFNZ]

I heard the recently canned 317 AW/CC made crews create a quad chart for any non-TACC off-station mission to brief to him? 

[17D_guy]

I don't know what level of buffoonery that rises to. 

[FourFans]

4 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

I don't know what level of buffoonery that rises to. 

C-17 level...which I've heard is just sub-AWACS...

[Chuck17]

8 hours ago, FourFans130 said:

C-17 level...which I've heard is just sub-AWACS...

Jesus. Maybe you guys are better off down there at Dyess after all. 

This is some straight early 2000’s super base C-17 BS. I thought we’d grown past this “wing commander acting like a squadron commander” crap. 

Guess not.

Good lesson though gents - what got you here won’t get you there. 

Chuck

[tac airlifter]

What’s a quad chart?

[FUSEPLUG]

1 hour ago, tac airlifter said:

What’s a quad chart?

Even with some pre-VSP exec stink on me, I had the same question.  Quick Google search quickly defined that piece of stupidity for me.  When multiple PPT slides are to much to digest in one sitting... 

So that's a thing now, huh?