UPT Next

[MechGov]

Sounds like a good group of cheap labor for the scheduling and training shops. Plus they'll have it figured out once their at their units.

Bring back casual Lt’s. I’m willing to wager that the increase in spicy corn production offsets the extra PCS costs of an ex-college student.

[Bender]

Vance AFB is conducting UPT 2.5 because “they were just so far ahead of the other bases”...LOL.

Anyone can sign up for stupid anytime they want, doesn’t make one “farther ahead”...I would NOT want to be dealing with this thing in mass as END right now. This thing is hard enough with a single flight SGTO.

Grade A way to become so overwhelmed you learn nothing (just wait until we sprinkle on a little timeline pressure), but that’s just one man’s opinion.

That whole syllabus is going to require a MASSIVE overhaul...not a bad try for writing it in a couple months when no one had any idea what they were doing.

Good luck to Vance & Randolph,
Not to mention Columbus & Laughlin,
~Bendy


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After tanking pilot production for years at END, tanking pilot production at CBM last year, working its way through DLF this year…this monstrosity is up for a syllabus conference next month.

The draft already has a massive overhaul…shocking (for the better though). That syllabus, at this point, is like walking backwards and forwards at the same time.

Some revisions should help, but until there is real progress in artificial instruction and a learner-centric learning management system, things will only continue to revert back to where it started from (not that many would complain about that).

This T-6 syllabus has been such a mess and distracting, the actual 2.5 syllabus still isn’t done yet…not even close.

It took years, as is standard, right up to the wire, but the execution of the T-1 was stayed at the last hour by Congress. We’ll see how that plays out…

~Bendy


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[MCO]

7 hours ago, Bender said:

 

After tanking pilot production for years at END, tanking pilot production at CBM last year, working its way through DLF this year…this monstrosity is up for a syllabus conference next month.

The draft already has a massive overhaul…shocking (for the better though). That syllabus, at this point, is like walking backwards and forwards at the same time.

Some revisions should help, but until there is real progress in artificial instruction and a learner-centric learning management system, things will only continue to revert back to where it started from (not that many would complain about that).

This T-6 syllabus has been such a mess and distracting, the actual 2.5 syllabus still isn’t done yet…not even close.

It took years, as is standard, right up to the wire, but the execution of the T-1 was stayed at the last hour by Congress. We’ll see how that plays out…

~Bendy


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Congress saved the T-1?

[tac airlifter]

Wow, I’m surprised to hear that about the T1.  We’ve been curtailing assignments to them for a while, if the platform is not divested I’m sure manning is weird.

[Boomer6]

Can’t imagine the AF would make drastic manning decisions before congress decides on divesting an airframe. That doesn’t sound realistic at all..

[Swizzle]

1 hour ago, MCO said:

Congress saved the T-1?

Not yet…but 2 Senators from Mississippi are trying with NDAA amendment

[FLEA]

2 hours ago, Swizzle said:

Not yet…but 2 Senators from Mississippi are trying with NDAA amendment

This makes sense now. Has nothing to do with the quality of the T-1 training or service is provides the force..... nope..... im sure some 1-200 jobs in Columbus Mississippi are in danger of being wiped out now and that's going to reduce tax revenues for the city by $200K next year and bankrupt them...... 

[Pooter]

Vance being the experimental test bed because they were so far ahead on timeline is maybe the fakest news I've ever heard in my life. In the 2018/2019 timeframe Laughlin literally sent instructors TDY to Vance solely to fly the line because of how far behind they were. Nothing against the Vance dudes in the trenches at the time.. the timeline problems were likely caused by manning blunders at levels far above them. 
 

The experimental programs started there because they were behind. That and yes-man commanders looking to get in the good graces of the aetc/cc at the time.
 

It's amazing how quickly you "fix" timeline problems by just chopping flights out of the syllabus. 

[Boomer6]

If I recall class sizes in T-6s increasing by about 30% didn’t help the Vance bros back then. T-38 classes increasing from the norm of 3-4 studs to 10-11 with no increase in IP manning wasn’t super helpful either.

[BashiChuni]

3 hours ago, Boomer6 said:

If I recall class sizes in T-6s increasing by about 30% didn’t help the Vance bros back then. T-38 classes increasing from the norm of 3-4 studs to 10-11 with no increase in IP manning wasn’t super helpful either.

Do more with less. Synergy. DEI. no excuses. /s

[Biff_T]

36 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

Do more with less. Synergy. DEI. no excuses. /s

You forgot about diversity.  That solves everything. 

[Swizzle]

1 hour ago, BashiChuni said:

Do more with less. Synergy. DEI. no excuses. /s

Good test of DEI theory however, give DEI their own pilot training wing like days of past (what is old is new) see if they can do better powered by DEI espirit de corps. 

[FLEA]

1 hour ago, Biff_T said:

You forgot about diversity.  That solves everything. 

Isn't DEI Diversity, Equity and Inclusion? Or is there another DEI I'm missing?

TBH: DE&I is an awesome concept. Its the way its polluted and practiced that make it nauseating. 

Edited October 18, 2022 by FLEA

[HuggyU2]

29 minutes ago, FLEA said:

TBH: DE&I is an awesome concept.

So is "being kind to your fellow man" and "honesty and integrity".

But I see no need to have a dedicated office for each of those two wonderful concepts, run by a senior NCO who can provide programs on how I can do them better.  

[BashiChuni]

DEI is bullshit. No battle or war was ever won due to DEI racial makeup of the soldiers. 
 

Technical competence and good leadership is what the AF should focus on. 
 

everything else is ridiculous woke nonsense that’s never won any dog fight or dropped any bomb. 

[FLEA]

20 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

DEI is bullshit. No battle or war was ever won due to DEI racial makeup of the soldiers. 
 

Technical competence and good leadership is what the AF should focus on. 
 

everything else is ridiculous woke nonsense that’s never won any dog fight or dropped any bomb. 

Not sure where you come from but where I grew up good leadership was treating people fairly and being inclusive of people who may have been different from the in crowd. It was also seeking a variety of opinions on a matter before making a decision......

Suffice to say winning a dogfight or dropping a bomb has also never won a war.... Rather, a cohesive strategy developed by professionals derived from a wide variety of professional backgrounds and experiences has gotten us much further. 

[brabus]

8 hours ago, FLEA said:

treating people fairly and being inclusive of people who may have been different from the in crowd. It was also seeking a variety of opinions on a matter before making a decision......

Which is all the antithesis of the “DEI” movement today. “DEI warriors” are the most exclusive, close-minded, hypocritical, racist, sexist, shittiest humans in this country. I could add more adjectives, but those will suffice for now. 

[Biff_T]

8 hours ago, FLEA said:

Not sure where you come from but where I grew up good leadership was treating people fairly and being inclusive of people who may have been different from the in crowd. It was also seeking a variety of opinions on a matter before making a decision......

Suffice to say winning a dogfight or dropping a bomb has also never won a war.... Rather, a cohesive strategy developed by professionals derived from a wide variety of professional backgrounds and experiences has gotten us much further. 

Meanwhile the Russians are using rape as a tactic.  

I would argue dropping those two really big bombs on Japan helped win at least one war. 

[FLEA]

40 minutes ago, brabus said:

Which is all the antithesis of the “DEI” movement today. “DEI warriors” are the most exclusive, close-minded, hypocritical, racist, sexist, shittiest humans in this country. I could add more adjectives, but those will suffice for now. 

As mentioned in my above post, don't let the SJW polluters sequester what is basically good leadership basics with their polluted distortion of it. DEI is everywhere on the outside world in business. The people carrying it day to day aren't concerned with what your privilege score is or whether you are sufficiently guilty as a white person. 

[Biff_T]

10 minutes ago, FLEA said:

 The people carrying it day to day aren't concerned with what your privilege score is or whether you are sufficiently guilty as a white person. 

What are they concerned about then?

[FLEA]

18 minutes ago, Biff_T said:

What are they concerned about then?

There are behaviors that happen within the organization that whether we like it or not that are discriminatory. Example: there are still many officers who believe shaving waivers somehow make someone less of an airman, despite the fact that it is a MEDICAL waiver used to treat what can be a very serious skin condition that disproportionately effects 1 subcategory of people. And those officers STILL believe that people on shaving waivers should be prevented from solid opportunities for career growth like being a first shirt, recruiting, working for the T-Birds, appearing in a news article. 

Neurodiversity is becoming another hot topic now. Why is the DoD still discriminating against adult ADHD when it's been proven this is a neurological condition that has strengths but is also professionally overcomable. 

Outside the AF though it's going to be your DEI officers who are going to ensure that if you are a disabled veteran taking classes at university you get accomodations to help you take exams. Perhaps you need a service animal, or more time because you write with your left hand now due to an injury. 

DEI officers are out in the Dept of Labor and US Chamber of Commerce right now arguing to employers how academically powerful military spouses are as an untapped labor resource. 

Edited October 18, 2022 by FLEA

[artvandelay43201]

The Wicker/Hyde-Smith amendment to keep the T-1s wasn't approved as part of the Senate's bill. So still looks like the fleet is on its way out for now.

[brabus]

22 hours ago, FLEA said:

As mentioned in my above post, don't let the SJW polluters sequester what is basically good leadership basics with their polluted distortion of it. DEI is everywhere on the outside world in business. The people carrying it day to day aren't concerned with what your privilege score is or whether you are sufficiently guilty as a white person. 

Glad that’s been your experience, but my experience with multiple large companies in the business world has been exactly what I stated. It’s pervasive and unfortunately probably a lot more planted than you think it is. 

[BashiChuni]

On 10/18/2022 at 1:20 AM, FLEA said:

Not sure where you come from but where I grew up good leadership was treating people fairly and being inclusive of people who may have been different from the in crowd. It was also seeking a variety of opinions on a matter before making a decision......

Suffice to say winning a dogfight or dropping a bomb has also never won a war.... Rather, a cohesive strategy developed by professionals derived from a wide variety of professional backgrounds and experiences has gotten us much further. 

Nice dig. I can assure you I grew up treating people fairly. And wtf does inclusive even mean?! If you can do the job I want you. Period. Inclusive is socialist jargon. 
 

DEI is not about treating people fairy. It’s about quotas, pushing the right people thru training, and pleasing the new woke mob. 
 

Diversity by itself doesn’t make anyone stronger or better. That’s inherently a racist idea. 

we need diversity of THOUGHT and skills, NOT diversity just of race and sex. 
From my small corner of the AF diversity of thought and skill is sacrificed on the woke alter of sex and race quotas. And yes don’t kid yourself higher leadership does have quotas  

and all your above examples are bull shit. Look at who is the lead DEI person at the pentagon. It ain’t the picture you paint. 

[FLEA]

5 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

Nice dig. I can assure you I grew up treating people fairly. And wtf does inclusive even mean?! If you can do the job I want you. Period. Inclusive is socialist jargon. 
 

DEI is not about treating people fairy. It’s about quotas, pushing the right people thru training, and pleasing the new woke mob. 
 

Diversity by itself doesn’t make anyone stronger or better. That’s inherently a racist idea. 

we need diversity of THOUGHT and skills, NOT diversity just of race and sex. 
From my small corner of the AF diversity of thought and skill is sacrificed on the woke alter of sex and race quotas. And yes don’t kid yourself higher leadership does have quotas  

and all your above examples are bull shit. Look at who is the lead DEI person at the pentagon. It ain’t the picture you paint. 

You said diversity of thought; so I guess my first question to you would be do you think that a person's experiences will change how they think?

If yes, than my second question would be do you believe that being a woman, or being black or Hispanic, might create experiences that you would not otherwise have being white, or being a man.

In my opinion the answer to both questions is yes. For the second one, I will never be able to describe to you the experience of being pregnant, or being a child of immigrant parents, or an immigrant myself. 

Now in your eyes those might not be experiences relevant to military warfighting. But I would disagree with you there. Because at the end of the day an enormous part of the military's machine is leadership. And leadership is a human skill with human problems and human implications. Every single commander I know will tell you that fixing and flying airplanes is the easy part of their job. 90% of their time is spent on the human problems. So if your airman aren't top performing because they have concerns dealing with where they are going to pump breast milk during the duty day or they have concerns with how and when they file their citizenship paperwork tied to their enlistment, etc..... I would argue that we are not working at our best. 

When we had the draft we could afford to not give a fuck about people and their individual concerns. Its been an all volunteer force for a half century now and year over year it has been increasingly difficult to recruit. So I guess we have to treat people with respect now and actually give a shit about them and what's happening in their life. 

Edited October 19, 2022 by FLEA