GA and 1801s

[KPPV1]

Can general aviation peeps file an 1801?

[brabus]

Why? File on any one of the easy apps/websites. To answer your question sort of (this is an assumption), but my guess is no since it’s a DOD form.  The form is meant for baseops folks to take the information and give it to ARTCC so the pilot doesn’t have to...something about being the people person. Never heard of civilians using DOD forms in an unofficial capacity/for something not linked to the DOD.

[jazzdude]

DD1801 is the military version of the ICAO flight plan; I'd use that if that's the format you like.

[Breckey]

Why? File on any one of the easy apps/websites. To answer your question sort of (this is an assumption), but my guess is no since it’s a DOD form.  The form is meant for baseops folks to take the information and give it to ARTCC so the pilot doesn’t have to...something about being the people person. Never heard of civilians using DOD forms in an unofficial capacity/for something not linked to the DOD.

Unless you fly VFR then they don't do shit

[Homestar]

Just choose ICAO from the Foreflight drop down. 

[Right Seat Driver]

I never file 1801s for CONUS, the 175 is the heat. Why would you ruin GA with the 1801?

[Guardian]

Why ruin GA with a 175?

[Hawg15]

Why would you ruin GA by involving the Air Force bureaucracy? 1-800-wxbrief “hey bro I’m flying a plane from here to there, thanks.” I still pretty much never do that seeing as I stick with VFR. 

[Skitzo]

Why would you ruin GA by involving the Air Force bureaucracy? 1-800-wxbrief “hey bro I’m flying a plane from here to there, thanks.” I still pretty much never do that seeing as I stick with VFR. 

At KHRT we are bypassing and using Foreflight, we just include airfield mgmts email so they are in the loop.


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[Breckey]

At KHRT we are bypassing and using Foreflight, we just include airfield mgmts email so they are in the loop.


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Do you use the 1801 in ForeFlight or just the FAA form? ForeFlight won't let a VFR 1801 go though and BO won't take the FAA plan

[viper154]

25 minutes ago, Breckey said:

53 minutes ago, Skitzo said:

At KHRT we are bypassing and using Foreflight, we just include airfield mgmts email so they are in the loop.


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Do you use the 1801 in ForeFlight or just the FAA form? ForeFlight won't let a VFR 1801 go though and BO won't take the FAA plan

FAA form. CVS has been using ForeFlight filing for almost a year. Believe we used the FAA form out there as well. 

[Homestar]

1 hour ago, Breckey said:

2 hours ago, Skitzo said:

At KHRT we are bypassing and using Foreflight, we just include airfield mgmts email so they are in the loop.


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Do you use the 1801 in ForeFlight or just the FAA form? ForeFlight won't let a VFR 1801 go though and BO won't take the FAA plan

If you’re filing electronically then base ops only needs a copy of what you’ve filed for flight following. It really doesn’t matter the format. Unless you’re talking about routine ops from home station where I’m sure you’ll need to battle whoever build his empire at base ops. 

[Breckey]

If you’re filing electronically then base ops only needs a copy of what you’ve filed for flight following. It really doesn’t matter the format. Unless you’re talking about routine ops from home station where I’m sure you’ll need to battle whoever build his empire at base ops. 

Our BO will not take a FAA flight plan for our XC sorties. No BO that I've ever filed with has ever filed a VFR flight plan with the FSS. Literally the only use is to get engine start approval.

[SurelySerious]

1 hour ago, Homestar said:

If you’re filing electronically then base ops only needs a copy of what you’ve filed for flight following. It really doesn’t matter the format. Unless you’re talking about routine ops from home station where I’m sure you’ll need to battle whoever build his empire at base ops. 

And the empire is significant.