B52gator Posted October 2, 2019 Posted October 2, 2019 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/vintage-b-17-plane-crashes-erupts-flames-bradley-international-airport-n1061161
mightymighty Posted October 2, 2019 Posted October 2, 2019 Just saw all these planes at OQU 2 weeks ago. Hope everyone is okay.
M2 Posted October 3, 2019 Posted October 3, 2019 Sadly, seven fatalities so far. ATC comms were posted on YouTube, an issue with the #4 engine was reported prior to the accident. Heartbreaking...
HuggyU2 Posted October 3, 2019 Posted October 3, 2019 Can't wait for the lawyers and the pussified public to start screaming "we must outlaw these old, outdated war machines!". You know it's coming. 2 3
Tank Posted October 3, 2019 Posted October 3, 2019 3 hours ago, HuggyU2 said: Can't wait for the lawyers and the pussified public to start screaming "we must outlaw these old, outdated war machines!". You know it's coming. Sounds like Senator Blumenthal is already starting down this road...
SocialD Posted October 3, 2019 Posted October 3, 2019 4 hours ago, HuggyU2 said: Can't wait for the lawyers and the pussified public to start screaming "we must outlaw these old, outdated war machines!". You know it's coming. It's as inevitable as them wanting more control after a shooting. 1
GrndPndr Posted October 3, 2019 Posted October 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Tank said: Sounds like Senator Blumenthal is already starting down this road... Makes me want to start punching.
M2 Posted October 3, 2019 Posted October 3, 2019 https://www.courant.com/breaking-news/hc-br-windsor-locks-bradley-international-airport-b-17-crash-victims-20191003-cfdp7c5crbfp7jfknchgggku6q-story.html
flynhigh Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 Off-duty USAF CMSgt. survives B-17 crash and saves another despite injuries 1
Bergman Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 This sucks on every level. If it can can happen to the most experienced B-17 pilot in the country, it can happen to you (or me). Stay safe out there fellas. 1 1
M2 Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 Excellent article. https://www.planeandpilotmag.com/going-direct-how-people-are-talking-about-the-b-17-crash-at-bradley-airport/ 1
Prosuper Posted October 5, 2019 Posted October 5, 2019 On 10/3/2019 at 8:42 PM, flynhigh said: Off-duty USAF CMSgt. survives B-17 crash and saves another despite injuries Jimmy was a young Airman working with me at Mildenhall cutting his teeth on KC-135A's in 1985, he is one of the good ones.
flynhigh Posted October 6, 2019 Posted October 6, 2019 Another article providing good perspective on the accident, what warbirds represent, and how we should move forward. Forbes: Keep History Flying 1
HuggyU2 Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) NTSB Preliminary report is out: https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/ReportGeneratorFile.ashx?EventID=20191002X11326&AKey=1&RType=HTML&IType=MA&fbclid=IwAR2n3Fk-HkfU6T_b7gWwoQEH68r_ggWP1yAaOme9EJXVyG8jZHQU0V9Glek Generates conclusions no one wants to admit to thinking. Ugly. Edited October 15, 2019 by HuggyU2 1 2
gearhog Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, HuggyU2 said: NTSB Preliminary report is out: https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/ReportGeneratorFile.ashx?EventID=20191002X11326&AKey=1&RType=HTML&IType=MA&fbclid=IwAR2n3Fk-HkfU6T_b7gWwoQEH68r_ggWP1yAaOme9EJXVyG8jZHQU0V9Glek Generates conclusions no one wants to admit to thinking. Ugly. Yes, it does. Very sad.
gearhog Posted October 15, 2019 Posted October 15, 2019 38 minutes ago, JBueno said: Which conclusions? #4 was reported to have mag problems. #3 as well as #4 were feathered. Fuel was not suspect. The implication being an engine may have been inadvertently shut down, but there is no way to know for sure.
Breckey Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 Based on what I read 3 of the 4 engines had 0 hours since overhaul, which seems weird that they would have passengers on the first flight after an engine overhaul.
viper154 Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, Breckey said: Based on what I read 3 of the 4 engines had 0 hours since overhaul, which seems weird that they would have passengers on the first flight after an engine overhaul. I read it as they had 0 hours at the time of the annual inspection in January. 1
arg Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 Article doesn't say what attitude the plane was in when it touched down. Wondering about a right closed pattern with #4 shut down and possible problems with #3. The article states on #3 "two blades appeared in a position between low pitch and feather", that's where they're supposed to be, the other blade position near feather would mean some sort of material failure.
Hacker Posted October 16, 2019 Posted October 16, 2019 8 hours ago, arg said: Article doesn't say what attitude the plane was in when it touched down. Wondering about a right closed pattern with #4 shut down and possible problems with #3. The article states on #3 "two blades appeared in a position between low pitch and feather", that's where they're supposed to be, the other blade position near feather would mean some sort of material failure. More likely "material failure" related to the engine getting thrown around post-crash after it separated from the wing. If you watch the entire video (and with the understanding of the limited info the NTSB video provides) there are some clues to this, especially that the tips of the blades are not curled, as would be evident if the engine were turning at impact. Props rotating and producing power at impact are usually curled forward, while props rotating and not producing power at impact are usually curled aft. 2 1
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