2021 Active Duty Flying Training Board

[HookedOnPhonix]

CSO select

98 pilot, 98 CSO, 86 pcsm w/o ppl (~12 hours). #1 Wing candidate and Wg strat as a group exec.

Sounds like it was a tough board this year. Congrats those that got it.

interested to see the final breakdown of career fields from those selected.

[seedeewhy]

  On 2/17/2021 at 8:51 PM, takingamessage said:

Ditto. 

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Same, if at all possible.

Been lurking a couple of weeks, but just got word that my commander intends to sit on the results until the 23rd.

Would really like to know before then..

[WannaBeAPilot442]

In other news, why does the system of disseminating this type of information have to be so broken? Like I understand wanting to give supervisors the opportunity to inform applicants of results, but why do we need (in my case) 4 entities between AFPC and the unit CC/supervisor?

Edited February 17, 2021 by WannaBeAPilot442

[ZE14]

  On 2/17/2021 at 10:19 PM, takingamessage said:

Non-select. 

86 Pilot, 76 PCSM. #1 Wing candidate, Wg/CC LOR, Wg strat and MAJCOM awards. Whatever the magic sauce was, guess I left it out. 

Congrats to everyone who got what they wanted! Go kick ass. 

 

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@takingamessagehow did you find out? From following this thread sounds like you and I are in the same WG.

[Bean]

  On 2/17/2021 at 9:48 PM, AFZ06 said:

Well looks like I’m a non-select.

FWIW I’m a current E-3 FTU Nav 1,000+ hours, 96 pilot, 91 PCSM w/ppl #2 WG strat. 
 

AD can get bent. Time to start rushing Reserve/Guard units. 

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Just so I’m getting some context you are already rated and (im assuming) only applied for Pilot correct? Those scores are stellar and I’m shocked you didn’t get picked with those scores. 

[Yodes]

  On 2/16/2021 at 11:58 PM, beef16 said:

UPT select: Pilot-93, PCSM-77. good luck!

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What was your AFSC?

[AFZ06]

  On 2/17/2021 at 11:28 PM, Bean said:

Just so I’m getting some context you are already rated and (im assuming) only applied for Pilot correct? Those scores are stellar and I’m shocked you didn’t get picked with those scores. 

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Yeah I’m also shocked. 😂 Extremely frustrating & disheartening. I am currently an E-3 Navigator so that falls under the “CSO” field. So I only applied for pilot. Literally chose this position over F-15 WSO out of NAV school because I thought it would be the quickest route to pilot. 
 

Second time non-select last year my AFOQT scores were P-74 PCSM - 76.

Im willing to bet I was selected but not released by my functional.

 

 

[barakiel011]

UPT Non-Select

KC-135 Evaluator Navigator, over 2000 hrs MDS flying, 25 hours Civilian, no PPL, Wing #1 select

PCSM: 74 Pilot: 92

This was my 4th board

[Bean]

  On 2/18/2021 at 12:06 AM, barakiel011 said:

UPT Non-Select

KC-135 Evaluator Navigator, over 2000 hrs MDS flying, 25 hours Civilian, no PPL, Wing #1 select

PCSM: 74 Pilot: 92

This was my 4th board

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If you don’t mind me asking did you get an ETP? I thought you we’re only allowed to try two times max?

[barakiel011]

yes I got an etp

[Av8]

UPT non-select as well...200+ hours w/PPL, 95 pilot/90 PCSM, but from an very undermanned career field. Been on the guard/reserve road for awhile now with quite a few interviews and no dice. Alot of guard/reserve squadrons don't like to hire current (non-rated) AD officers is mostly the feedback I have gotten. The quest to fly continues!

Edited February 18, 2021 by Av8

[ZE14]

Upt non-select, URT IP/MQ-9 LRE Pilot, 96 pilot 91 pcsm, ppl w/85hrs. Have a feeling it was due to manning my in career field. Congrats to all who got selected. 

On a different note, those who got RPA feel free to hit me up about bases, aircraft, training, liestyle, whatever. Especially since I'm pretty sure you'll put in your dream sheet and get your assignments prior to getting to me at randolph. 

[URT21Select]

UPT Non-select, URT select. First time applying. No PPL, 20hrs

Pilot: 97   PCSM: 81

 

If anyone's got info on the RPA career field shoot me a mesage

[AW91]

Non-Select

87 PCSM
85 Pilot
PPL w/ 120 hrs

Congratulations to all that got selected, this was/is a tough year to apply!

[beef16]

  On 2/17/2021 at 11:36 PM, Yodes said:

What was your AFSC?

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13M- Airfield Ops

[UPTfingerscrossed]

URT. Wanted pilot. 80 PCSM / 98 Pilot / PPL / 1 of 3 General push / LOR from a 2 star.

Invest more into more flying hours to get a higher PCSM? 

Congrats to those who got what they wanted!! 🙂

 

 

[Diamond_Hands]

  On 2/18/2021 at 1:22 AM, beef16 said:

13M- Airfield Ops

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Nice, glad to see they are releasing us 

[BGWC]

Another Non-Select here.

98 Pilot

82 PCSM/21 Hours

First Time applying

[Blue]

  On 2/18/2021 at 12:30 AM, Bean said:

I thought you we’re only allowed to try two times max?

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Just curious - is that something new?  Are you only allowed to apply twice?

I believe it used to be you could apply as many times as you wanted until you reached the max age or max total commissioned service time?

[Av8]

  On 2/18/2021 at 4:43 PM, Blue said:

Just curious - is that something new?  Are you only allowed to apply twice?

I believe it used to be you could apply as many times as you wanted until you reached the max age or max total commissioned service time?

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I believe you are correct, I think @Bean may be referring to the fact that you can only apply once more if you declined something previously (i.e. wanted pilot but got CSO and declined CSO). Technically, I think you can apply as much as you want if you aren't selected for anything. However, it does raise an interesting point that it may be better to be selected for nothing than selected for something you don't want if you have a certain goal.

[Bean]

  On 2/18/2021 at 5:29 PM, Av8 said:

I believe you are correct, I think @Bean may be referring to the fact that you can only apply once more if you declined something previously (i.e. wanted pilot but got CSO and declined CSO). Technically, I think you can apply as much as you want if you aren't selected for anything. However, it does raise an interesting point that it may be better to be selected for nothing than selected for something you don't want if you have a certain goal.

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Sorry for the confusion but yes this situation is what I was referring to in my initial question.

On another note, for all those non-selects, are you all in rated career fields already? I’m speculating right now but it looks like the rated functionals are denying people releases when they could have been picked up for pilot with their high scores, total amount of flight time and PPLs. I’d be livid if I spent all my time/money into flying only to have a functional deny my release after the board met. 
 

If my logic is flawed please let me know!

[AFZ06]

  On 2/18/2021 at 7:24 PM, Bean said:

Sorry for the confusion but yes this situation is what I was referring to in my initial question.

On another note, for all those non-selects, are you all in rated career fields already? I’m speculating right now but it looks like the rated functionals are denying people releases when they could have been picked up for pilot with their high scores, total amount of flight time and PPLs. I’d be livid if I spent all my time/money into flying only to have a functional deny my release after the board met. 
 

If my logic is flawed please let me know!

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I’m in a rated field and a non-select I thought that would be the case for me but nope. I emailed Chris this morning and I was simply not selected. Just outside the cut he said. 
 

Which is mind boggling judging by the amount of non-rated people chosen. It just doesn’t make sense they’d take someone with 0 airmanship and military flight time over someone that’s already proven & capable. I just don’t get it. 

My stats are E-3 FTU I-Nav, 1K+ hours, 96P/91PCSM, PPL, 3 deployments and they chose a non rate over me. 🥴

Edited February 18, 2021 by AFZ06

[WannaBeAPilot442]

ABM Select

PCSM 84, Pilot 95, 15 Hours

2nd time applying (CSO select last time)

I'll be declining, so good luck to the alternates out there

[URTSELECT]

UPT non-select, Got RPA instead.

P 93, PCSM 82, 41 Flight Hours.

1st time applying. 

Most likely declining and waiting to make my package stronger. 

[URTselect-UPTwanted]

  On 2/18/2021 at 7:39 PM, AFZ06 said:

I’m in a rated field and a non-select I thought that would be the case for me but nope. I emailed Chris this morning and I was simply not selected. Just outside the cut he said. 
 

Which is mind boggling judging by the amount of non-rated people chosen. It just doesn’t make sense they’d take someone with 0 airmanship and military flight time over someone that’s already proven & capable. I just don’t get it. 

My stats are E-3 FTU I-Nav, 1K+ hours, 96P/91PCSM, PPL, 3 deployments and they chose a non rate over me. 🥴

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Yo, this is def BS.  Based on that score alone you should have gotten UPT.  Did you have a GO sign your package?  I hear it helps make a difference too.