COVID-19 (Aka China Virus)

[bfargin]

3 hours ago, Standby said:

When you have medical institutions listing cause of death as COVID, when in fact it was the fall and subsequent slide off their motorcycle into a guardrail…ya, I will rely on personal experience over some sensationalized and manipulated data set. 

[HossHarris]

6 hours ago, TheNewGazmo said:

Stop reading the news and Google medical research articles and case studies.  These are written by people getting paid trying to better the world with their medical research vs getting paid to invoke some sort of reaction out of certain groups or support certain political parties.

Getting paid by whom?

[Guest]

https://www.upmc.com/media/news/072621-king-mejia-vaccine-hesitancy

“The largest decrease in hesitancy between January and May by education group was in those with a high school education or less. Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group (those with a Ph.D.); by May Ph.D.’s were the most hesitant group.”

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[BroncoEN]

2 hours ago, dogfish78 said:

https://www.upmc.com/media/news/072621-king-mejia-vaccine-hesitancy

“The largest decrease in hesitancy between January and May by education group was in those with a high school education or less. Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group (those with a Ph.D.); by May Ph.D.’s were the most hesitant group.”

[Bold text added]

Another statistical story that is all like the rest…. “Let’s paint the picture we want to paint.”

Infers PhDs went up in hesitancy… which is wrong, everyone else went down. PhDs stayed mostly static… which is what you’d expect from those that aren’t swayed by media and did their research from the beginning. 

[BashiChuni]

[Guest]

11 hours ago, BroncoEN said:

Another statistical story that is all like the rest…. “Let’s paint the picture we want to paint.”

Infers PhDs went up in hesitancy… which is wrong, everyone else went down. PhDs stayed mostly static… which is what you’d expect from those that aren’t swayed by media and did their research from the beginning. 

Yes, that’s exactly why I posted it. We are in agreement.

[Prozac]

14 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

Must be the fluoride in the water that emasculated ‘em. If there’s one thing I can’t stand it’s all these fucking hipster Karen scientists. Amirite? 

[Tank]

I couldn’t find anything to debunk this article.  Not sure if true or not but if it is true, we’ve got a fight on our hands!!

 

https://realrawnews.com/2021/08/marines-rebuke-def-sec-no-mandatory-vaccinations-for-my-marines/?fbclid=IwAR2ejYDzk7qfXg3sVXRp-L-BCVHbqknKLUERRcTGG_LURzoTvjhqkaQP-Yw

[VMFA187]

15 minutes ago, Tank said:

I couldn’t find anything to debunk this article.  Not sure if true or not but if it is true, we’ve got a fight on our hands!!

 

https://realrawnews.com/2021/08/marines-rebuke-def-sec-no-mandatory-vaccinations-for-my-marines/?fbclid=IwAR2ejYDzk7qfXg3sVXRp-L-BCVHbqknKLUERRcTGG_LURzoTvjhqkaQP-Yw

As a Marine I'd have an incredibly hard time believing the Commandant would say:

“Under no circumstances will Marines be compelled to take a potentially hazardous vaccination that the FDA won’t even fully endorse,” Gen. Berger told Austin. “You are a coward and a traitor, manipulated by people pushing bad policy on the men and women who provide security to our nation. Neither you nor your puppet president has authority to enforce such a policy.”

[brabus]

Not very plausible the USMC Commandant would say/write that publicly, even if he personally feels that way. But, it is possible. 

[Tank]

21 minutes ago, brabus said:

Not very plausible the USMC Commandant would say/write that publicly, even if he personally feels that way. But, it is possible. 

The way I read the article was that it wasn’t stated publicly but behind closed doors on the phone and it was overheard and re-told by a staff member.  
I don’t think the Commandant would ever say anything like that publicly either but I could believe it over the phone and in his office.  

[Prefontaine]

Uhh...look at some of the other "news articles" on that site. 

[FlyingWolf]

45 minutes ago, Tank said:

I couldn’t find anything to debunk this article.  Not sure if true or not but if it is true, we’ve got a fight on our hands!!

 

https://realrawnews.com/2021/08/marines-rebuke-def-sec-no-mandatory-vaccinations-for-my-marines/?fbclid=IwAR2ejYDzk7qfXg3sVXRp-L-BCVHbqknKLUERRcTGG_LURzoTvjhqkaQP-Yw

Basic tool in assessing validity of a website: check what else is posted.

 

That site is full of obviously bogus BS.

[Tank]

44 minutes ago, Prefontaine said:

Uhh...look at some of the other "news articles" on that site. 

Noted…. 
Definitely not “news”
 

 

[Day Man]

🌮 for SA

[Guardian]

That makes it even more impressive if true. Dude got the shot but willing to jump on his sword on behalf of the troops he leads.

[Scooter14]

That makes it even more impressive if true. Dude got the shot but willing to jump on his sword on behalf of the troops he leads.

Except it’s from a bullshit fake news site so there’s that.

The sad thing is that people will read that website and believe every word. It almost trapped Tank.

[arg]

3 hours ago, VMFA187 said:

As a Marine I'd have an incredibly hard time believing the Commandant would say:

“Under no circumstances will Marines be compelled to take a potentially hazardous vaccination that the FDA won’t even fully endorse,” Gen. Berger told Austin. “You are a coward and a traitor, manipulated by people pushing bad policy on the men and women who provide security to our nation. Neither you nor your puppet president has authority to enforce such a policy.”

I read that in a Jack Nicholson voice

[Scooter14]

I read that in a Jack Nicholson voice

I eat breakfast 300 yards from 4000 corpsman who are trained to vaccinate me.

[pawnman]

4 hours ago, VMFA187 said:

As a Marine I'd have an incredibly hard time believing the Commandant would say:

“Under no circumstances will Marines be compelled to take a potentially hazardous vaccination that the FDA won’t even fully endorse,” Gen. Berger told Austin. “You are a coward and a traitor, manipulated by people pushing bad policy on the men and women who provide security to our nation. Neither you nor your puppet president has authority to enforce such a policy.”

I have to believe that if a general said that to SECDEF, the second half of this article would be about their replacement. 

[busdriver]

2 hours ago, pawnman said:

I have to believe that if a general said that to SECDEF, the second half of this article would be about their replacement. 

Not to mention the whole thing reads like the wet dream of a Qanon level conspiracy theorist.

[Negatory]

Facepalm.

[Negatory]

This opens a legitimate avenue for discussion. Should facebook, twitter, google, etc. be able to point out, when people link any "news" from that website, that the articles are "misinformation" or "fake news?"

[Kiloalpha]

20 minutes ago, Negatory said:

This opens a legitimate avenue for discussion. Should facebook, twitter, google, etc. be able to point out, when people link any "news" from that website, that the articles are "misinformation" or "fake news?"

No. Despite how tempting it is.

[FLEA]

Regardless of the validity, this is going to be a real problem for the USMC with the lowest rate of vaccination among the 4 services.