COVID-19 (Aka China Virus)

[Guardian]

Still doesn’t make sense to me that if there are mask mandates why the vaccinated don’t have to wear masks. Hasn’t made any sense since the vaccine came out.

If you have the vaccine and covid with almost no symptoms you are just spreading it about.

Anyone explain that one?

[CaptainMorgan]

Still doesn’t make sense to me that if there are mask mandates why the vaccinated don’t have to wear masks. Hasn’t made any sense since the vaccine came out.

If you have the vaccine and covid with almost no symptoms you are just spreading it about.

Anyone explain that one?

Prior to Omicron, the vaccine was thought to effectively reduce risk of and severity of infection. If you’re not infected, you can’t spread it; if the severity is reduced, then presumably the viral load and risk of spreading were also reduced.

Realistically, the “no-mask if you’re vaxed” policies were probably just to incentivize getting the jab.

[BashiChuni]

Clearly COVID is being pivoted away from. It’s over. Thankfully. Although the deaths are higher this year. But doesn’t feel like it due to media turning down the fear mongering. 
 

I bet they’ll try to bring restrictions and masks back in the fall when we get a spike. 

[lloyd christmas]

[dream big]

On 2/28/2022 at 4:13 PM, TheNewGazmo said:

On 2/28/2022 at 3:34 PM, BashiChuni said:

so i guess covid's over huh?
midterms coming up and a coordinated dropping of mask mandates, vax cards, vax mandates, etc
so scientific!

And Russia/Ukraine. COVID is definitely not as doom and gloom as the chance of nuclear war.

It never was, the hype was a convenient distraction from how incompetent the left’s president is.  What is it, never let a good crisis go to waste?

[Sim]

Well. Well. Well.  "horse paste" for the win. 

[Sim]

 

[Sim]

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21562517-reed-oconnor-ruling

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The new ruling means “anyone in the U.S. Navy whose religious accommodation from the vaccine mandate was denied is now protected from any sort of punishment or involuntary separation, things like that,” said Mike Berry, a lawyer with First Liberty Institute, which represents the plaintiffs in the case.

 

[glockenspiel]

https://fb.watch/c40sAzGDis/

All of a sudden, he is stating that they haven't been using BLA compliant vaccines this whole time. This General is probably just misinformed or perhaps he is just an armchair lawyer. Who cares if the DoD follows the law, all vaccines are probably made well enough right? EUA, BLA who gives a shit?

21 U.S. Code § 360bbb–3 - Authorization for medical products for use in emergencies | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

But before we dig any further, the war is heating up. Keep your phones and TVs on at all times tuned to CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC etc. etc. 

[tac airlifter]

Quick update- still no FDA approved vaccine available at my base clinic or local Walgreens.  Our only option remains the EUA vaccine, accompanied by an unproven manufacturers claim it is the same.

 

[brickhistory]

Judge blocks Air Force discipline over vaccine objections (msn.com)

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TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) — A federal judge has blocked the military from disciplining a dozen U.S. Air Force officers who are asking for religious exemptions to the mandatory COVID-19 vaccine.

The officers, mostly from Wright-Patterson Air Force Base near Dayton, Ohio, along with a handful of airmen and reservists, filed a lawsuit in February after their exemption requests were denied.

 

This probably pisses off the "follow all orders or else" crowd.

And I thought this Administration said the crisis is passed...

 

More power to 'em (pun intended).

[BashiChuni]

Taking bets on federal travel mask mandates getting extended 

[Lord Ratner]

1 hour ago, BashiChuni said:

Taking bets on federal travel mask mandates getting extended 

I think not. The polls are devastating, so they have to give on something. 

 

And apparently they are doubling down on homelessness, illegal immigration, trans nonsense, don't say gay, etc. So maybe they won't 🤷🏻‍♂️

[brabus]

At this point, the optimist in me is hoping this egregious abortion of the last 2 years (and especially the last year) has pissed so many people off that the far left has shot themselves in the foot 10 times over, and we'll see them and all of their bullshit shoved aside into the dark corner of the basement where they belong.

[TreeA10]

I've wandered into and out airport sans mask. My only encounter with anyone making a comment was a TSA lady at the Known Crew Member entry who asked "Do you have a mask?". I replied "Yes" and kept walking. She laughed. 

[glockenspiel]

https://rumble.com/v10l9na-usmc-pilots-speak-on-religious-objections-to-vaccine-at-the-defeat-the-mand.html

 

[kaputt]

https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/indoor-mask-mandate-philadelphia-businesses-20220411.html
 

The madness isn’t done in Philadelphia yet. Soon to return to a city near you? 

[SpeedOfHeat]

12 hours ago, kaputt said:

https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/indoor-mask-mandate-philadelphia-businesses-20220411.html
The madness isn’t done in Philadelphia yet. Soon to return to a city near you? 

Meanwhile, the CDC shows Philadelphia County as "Low, no masks required." 

Makes zero sense.  Good luck with enforcement.

As others have said, we have to vote our way out of this.  The lunatics are determined to have this go on forever. 

[HeloDude]

What are the odds of us being back in masks on base before November?  I give it better than 50/50.

[FLEA]

3 hours ago, HeloDude said:

What are the odds of us being back in masks on base before November?  I give it better than 50/50.

OCONUS there are still several bases in masks -_- so happy I'm done with this nonsense. 

I was at an Army installation in Europe earlier this year and you were required to wear mask while working out in the gym. Maybe it was the same in the AF at the time but I have my own gym so I don't know. But it was the stupid idea I've ever heard. Wonder how many people have passed out lifting more than they should be able to on reduced oxygen. 

Edited April 12, 2022 by FLEA

[uhhello]

6 hours ago, FLEA said:

OCONUS there are still several bases in masks -_- so happy I'm done with this nonsense. 

I was at an Army installation in Europe earlier this year and you were required to wear mask while working out in the gym. Maybe it was the same in the AF at the time but I have my own gym so I don't know. But it was the stupid idea I've ever heard. Wonder how many people have passed out lifting more than they should be able to on reduced oxygen. 

At my kids middle school track meet there were more than two hands worth of kids running sprints/long distances in masks.  Outside track.   We haven't had a mask requirement in school here for almost a year now.  We've messed up a giant chunk of the population.  

 

Have a coworker who's sibling's family have isolated since this kicked off years ago.  Both work from home with amazon and IBM.  Groceries are delivered and disenfected.  They have two toddlers who haven't been outside the home for other than doctors visits.  They are leaving the house next week to drive to Cali so there toddlers can be part of the vaccine study on under 5's.  

Edited April 13, 2022 by uhhello

[Waingro]

4 hours ago, uhhello said:

At my kids middle school track meet there were more than two hands worth of kids running sprints/long distances in masks.  Outside track.   We haven't had a mask requirement in school here for almost a year now.  We've messed up a giant chunk of the population.  

 

Have a coworker who's sibling's family have isolated since this kicked off years ago.  Both work from home with amazon and IBM.  Groceries are delivered and disenfected.  They have two toddlers who haven't been outside the home for other than doctors visits.  They are leaving the house next week to drive to Cali so there toddlers can be part of the vaccine study on under 5's.  

I happily don't wear a mask unless it's absolutely a requirement to do something (air travel, etc.) 

That said, I constantly hear your complaint from the same crowd who have long preached that it didn't matter what anyone else does, so long as they didn't force masks or vaccines on anyone else. Ted Cruz, our favorite Canadian-turned-Texan, recently went on a tirade against Mr. T of all people, because Mr. T publicly said he was going to continue to social distance. Ted Cruz apparently still cares, and it seems like you really do care, a lot, about what other people around you are doing.

I saw westerners in Kabul, a decade ago, exercising outdoors with masks on (very poor air quality, leaded gas in shitty generators, etc.) While I found that precaution excessive, it didn't bother me to the point that I'd go online and rail against it. If a middle-schooler wants to run a race in a mask, or get a dumb haircut, or wear stupid clothes, then so be it.

 

[slc]

Ahh...missing the point.  Young kids are naive and will follow their parents idiotic "advice"

[SpeedOfHeat]

52 minutes ago, Waingro said:

It seems like you really do care, a lot, about what other people around you are doing.

This thread got going again because of mandates.  The mandates for Airline travel, and then Philadelphia's new mandate. 

The examples of individual's showcasing their mask lunacy are provided to demonstrate how messed up some people's heads have gotten because of all this. 

Although you are absolutely right that I don't care what they do personally as individuals, their hysteria and idiocy is relevant because it impacts public policy (i.e. mask mandates that I'm ordered to follow.)

There are ample mitigation resources and strategies available to everyone.  People can make choices for themselves.  And when/if we are allowed to, you won't hear a peep from me.  But for now, unfortunately, that group -- the covidian psychos -- are still driving stupid, irrational policies that everyone has to follow.

Edited April 13, 2022 by SpeedOfHeat

[uhhello]

8 hours ago, Waingro said:

I happily don't wear a mask unless it's absolutely a requirement to do something (air travel, etc.) 

That said, I constantly hear your complaint from the same crowd who have long preached that it didn't matter what anyone else does, so long as they didn't force masks or vaccines on anyone else. Ted Cruz, our favorite Canadian-turned-Texan, recently went on a tirade against Mr. T of all people, because Mr. T publicly said he was going to continue to social distance. Ted Cruz apparently still cares, and it seems like you really do care, a lot, about what other people around you are doing.

I saw westerners in Kabul, a decade ago, exercising outdoors with masks on (very poor air quality, leaded gas in shitty generators, etc.) While I found that precaution excessive, it didn't bother me to the point that I'd go online and rail against it. If a middle-schooler wants to run a race in a mask, or get a dumb haircut, or wear stupid clothes, then so be it.

 

I honestly don't care about what adults do.  I do care about young impressionable kids having this forced on them by their parents who are still cowering in the corner on this.