dream big Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 On 4/15/2022 at 11:39 PM, slc said: and CONUS military bases? are we still doing that? Currently deployed and "out of the loop" I’ve seen masks come back and forth 6-9 times at CONUS bases since Covid started. Utter clown show. At an unnamed base in Texas, there was a policy that you couldn’t go TDY if you weren’t boosted. That quickly got squashed. As for the airline mask mandate, TSA works for Biden, most of his supporters are huge fans of mask mandates. In some weird way many feel that they are doing some philanthropic good by forcing everyone to wear the cloth on the plane and public places. Probably the same people that wear it outside or alone in their car, you know, the ones that have it on for their Facebook picture. 1
Prozac Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, uhhello said: Jeebus help the airport police, aircrew, FA's, and gate agents. Aircrew’ll be fine. There’s gonna be some backlash from a good chunk of the FAs though (if this sticks). I never minded them enforcing the mandate (decision was made above their paygrade) but holy shit some of them got pretty over-zealous about it. Won’t miss some of the preflight spiels about masking between sips, bites, etc. 1
Prozac Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, BashiChuni said: Masks on planes are done. Appears airlines are running with this ruling. Will be very difficult for the Biden admin to put the genie back in the bottle at this point. 1
HeloDude Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Prozac said: Aircrew’ll be fine. There’s gonna be some backlash from a good chunk of the FAs though (if this sticks). I never minded them enforcing the mandate (decision was made above their paygrade) but holy shit some of them got pretty over-zealous about it. Won’t miss some of the preflight spiels about masking between sips, bites, etc. the FAs can always wear N95 masks if they’re really worried and believe that masks work. Or they can just refuse to fly. 1
uhhello Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Prozac said: Aircrew’ll be fine. There’s gonna be some backlash from a good chunk of the FAs though (if this sticks). I never minded them enforcing the mandate (decision was made above their paygrade) but holy shit some of them got pretty over-zealous about it. Won’t miss some of the preflight spiels about masking between sips, bites, etc. My response was more along the lines of these folks having to deal with the ruling today and the potential delay in an actual TSA/FAA/Whoever decision on what rules/laws are being followed. There are daily videos of people getting thrown off planes or fights from these stupid masks.
FUSEPLUG Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 35 minutes ago, BashiChuni said: Masks on planes are done. And for the love of God, we better fight like hell to keep it that way. 2
Standby Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 38 minutes ago, BashiChuni said: Masks on planes are done. I know you like a good bet…over/under on the increase of pre-departure altercations caused by the Branch Covidians trying to deliver street-mask-justice for the non-believers of the recycled Hanes skid mark underwear mask? 2
Sim Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 Delta, United, Alaskan and American no longer have mask requirements. TSA will not enforce requirement either.
08Dawg Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Sim said: Delta, United, Alaskan and American no longer have mask requirements. TSA will not enforce requirement either. That sure as shit took about 69 seconds to drop, haha. My in-laws were flying home today. OMA-ATL- mask. ATL-JAN- no mask! 1 1
SpeedOfHeat Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 2 hours ago, FUSEPLUG said: And for the love of God, we better Vote like hell to keep it that way. FIFY
Pooter Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 Happy to hear the mask news but i have to say I legit do not understand how federal judges work.
HossHarris Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Pooter said: Happy to hear the mask news but i have to say I legit do not understand how federal judges work. Pretty simple…somebody sued the federal govt and/or cDc and/or TSA and/or Dot and won. 3
pawnman Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 The Supreme Court reversed an earlier decision and gave power back to the Pentagon to enforce vaccine mandates. https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3272130-supreme-court-wont-shield-airman-from-punishment-over-vaccine-refusal/
HeloDude Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 The fact that the Biden admin isn’t appealing the judge’s decision to stop the mask mandate means they know they would lose, the masks don’t work, and/or it’s not popular to do so. Sad that it’s taken so long for a majority of the American public to get to this point. 2
Pooter Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 9 hours ago, HossHarris said: Pretty simple…somebody sued the federal govt and/or cDc and/or TSA and/or Dot and won. Yeah I get that, I'm more confused how a single federal judge (there are 1700+) can overrule the executive branch thereby reversing nationwide policy. And if all we had to do was find a single federal judge who didn't like the rule and sue in that court why tf did it take this long.
tac airlifter Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, Pooter said: Yeah I get that, I'm more confused how a single federal judge (there are 1700+) can overrule the executive branch thereby reversing nationwide policy. And if all we had to do was find a single federal judge who didn't like the rule and sue in that court why tf did it take this long. I’m surprised you’re confused— judges did this numerous times to overturn various POTUS policies during the previous administration. The reason it took so long in this case is psycho democrats enabled by an aligned media and risk-averse doctors did all they could to stop it. Make no mistake: masks were always ineffective and the science never said otherwise. This was political all along. Some of us are taking a bit longer to figure that out. 6
HeloDude Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, Pooter said: Yeah I get that, I'm more confused how a single federal judge (there are 1700+) can overrule the executive branch thereby reversing nationwide policy. And if all we had to do was find a single federal judge who didn't like the rule and sue in that court why tf did it take this long. Just curious, is your confusion new or has it always been there regarding a single federal judge’s ability to strike down a federal law/rule? Reason I’m asking is because this has been happening as long as I’ve been following politics and I’m kind of old. As for why did it take this long, who knows. If I had a guess it’s because of the standard bureaucracy of our government, but I’m sure it also has to do with the mood of the country, the timeline of the mandates, etc.
disgruntledemployee Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 17 hours ago, Prozac said: Appears airlines are running with this ruling. Will be very difficult for the Biden admin to put the genie back in the bottle at this point. This feels like a Berlin Wall moment. Way too much momentum to change it back and if they try, by the time they do, data will probably show no difference. Someone will probably show the executive branch, "look, the people are happy," change it back and you will lose elections. 1
BashiChuni Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 Just now, BashiChuni said: I dunno pretty clear masks did work /s
brickhistory Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 7 hours ago, pawnman said: The Supreme Court reversed an earlier decision and gave power back to the Pentagon to enforce vaccine mandates. https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3272130-supreme-court-wont-shield-airman-from-punishment-over-vaccine-refusal/ Are you happy about this?
HeloDude Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 22 minutes ago, brickhistory said: Are you happy about this? Last year the dude literally said if he were a commander he would seeks out and look forward to giving out Art 15s to those members who weren’t wearing a mask but had not had the covid shot (back when that was a thing). Take this as you will… 1 3 1
brickhistory Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 I remember which is why I asked him if he's happy that another unnecessary mort is occurring due to the goatrope that ensued. The ending of the mask mandate (mostly) is just a last gasp of the stupidity that occurred. Lest we forget... 1
HeloDude Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 2 hours ago, brickhistory said: I remember which is why I asked him if he's happy that another unnecessary mort is occurring due to the goatrope that ensued. The ending of the mask mandate (mostly) is just a last gasp of the stupidity that occurred. Lest we forget... Go read some FB comments concerning the news story on the “mainstream news outlets”…the progressives are upset at the ruling and believes that this will kill people. Oh and they say that the federal judge shouldn’t even be a judge (was “unqualified”), people that won’t wear masks are selfish, blah blah blah. Same nonsense people have been spewing on here for the last 1.5-2 years. 1
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