COVID-19 (Aka China Virus)

[Lord Ratner]

7 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

there's no middle ground. you're either for individual rights and choices or you're not. that's not a pigeon hole or strawman. i'm amazed at how many citizens blindly trust their daddy government and will never hold it accountable for gross violations of their constitutional rights.

Sometimes you say dumb things, but this is particularly dumb.

 

Coming from someone who agreed with you on 95% of your COVID commentary, you sound like a hyperventilating Karen.

[ecugringo]

3 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

That’s exactly right. Go back and read this thread from 18 months ago, people here were claiming there was a scientific consensus when in fact there was a conspiracy to paint a scientific consensus and drown out opposing voices.  And those opposing voices turned out to be correct.  Now revisionist history is taking place right in front of our eyes: Democrats are claiming they did not want schools closed, Trump pushed the shot, and it was just a wild time and nobody really knew what the right answer was so they defaulted towards safety.  All of that completely false.

As I look at the many failures compounding within our society, from skyrocketing urban crime to a foolish Covid response, to a humiliating defeat in Afghanistan, runaway inflation, etc. there is a single thread which connects them all: lack of accountability.  People in senior leadership positions made deliberate decisions with disastrous results, and they are never held accountable. All of our problems will continue to worsen until people are fired & thrown in jail when they deserve it.  And given the severe damage to children he perpetrated, I would like to start with Fauci.

 

Yeah I remember going into costco in my Denver burb with my 2 yr old and getting yelled at by the greater that he wasn't masked up.   Then there was a dude that got arrested for shooting hoops with his daughter at a park in the early days in the same hood.  

Funny when I traveled to red states they didn't have these issues.

[brabus]

The UK has banned Covid vax for 12 and under, because they actually use logic and follow science. But yeah, you’re correct progressive white couple living in a million $ house, you do know better than an entire country’s scientific and medical community. Yay Bernie!

[Sim]

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“We don’t have time to do a clinical trial because we need to get the vaccine out now,” Fauci said on CBC this week, pointing to how about 400 Americans are dying per day with COVID-19 and thousands of others are in hospitals with the disease

https://www.theepochtimes.com/fauci-we-dont-have-time-to-run-clinical-trials-for-updated-boosters_4720564.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=rantingly

 

That's how you do 'science' when big pharmaceutical owns you.  

[MCO]

15 hours ago, brabus said:

The UK has banned Covid vax for 12 and under, because they actually use logic and follow science. But yeah, you’re correct progressive white couple living in a million $ house, you do know better than an entire country’s scientific and medical community. Yay Bernie!

They also completely locked down there country multiple times, where all travel was illegal except to get food. Was that based on logic and science as well? I feel like the answer is there was more than one answer but nobody will admit anything but their answer was correct.

[brabus]

6 hours ago, MCO said:

They also completely locked down there country multiple times, where all travel was illegal except to get food. Was that based on logic and science as well? I feel like the answer is there was more than one answer but nobody will admit anything but their answer was correct.

They learned, corrected course, and admitted their mistakes. Too many people in our country have done none of those. 

[Sim]

On 7/27/2022 at 4:54 PM, Sim said:

https://www.sirillp.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/077-ORDER-GRANTING-CLASS-WIDE-PRELIMINARY-INJUNCTION-c25ace314ba32f40f8c6e1dfce73437e.pdf

 

 

 

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The Department’s motion for an emergency stay is denied. We will expedite the Department’s appeal of the district court’s class-wide preliminary injunction. The Department must file its principal brief within two weeks of the entry of this order. The plaintiffs will have two weeks to respond. The Department will then have seven days to reply. Oral argument will be scheduled for October 19, 2022, and we will strive to decide the Department’s appeal in November.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22284415-appeals-court-order-on-air-force-mandate

[ClearedHot]

My son has the Air Force Academy in his list of schools (god help me).  While talking to both our Congressman and Senator we found out applications are down 80%!  COVID vaccination was cited as the main reason.

[Sim]

29 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

applications are down 80%!  COVID vaccination was cited as the main reason.

I'm shocked! 

Edited September 13, 2022 by Sim

[Biff_T]

Just one more shot.  

[BashiChuni]

DC. Mask “required” for single stall bathroom. 

[gearhog]

7 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

My son has the Air Force Academy in his list of schools (god help me).  While talking to both our Congressman and Senator we found out applications are down 80%!  COVID vaccination was cited as the main reason.

I have a junior and freshman in college. They would both join (against my recommendations) in a heartbeat if there was no vax requirement. Keep it in place as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Muscle2002]

Whoa, even mainstream sources (NPR) are backing away from the party line that held fast the last 2+ years. Apparently, it’s okay now to question how mortalities were counted, the riskiness of COVID, etc. 🙄 Before someone says, “But the science is different now,” I acknowledge that contextual factors have changed regarding the disease. However, non-scientific reasons are also driving the shift in attitudes, which undermines the credibility of the cult chant of “trust the science.”

 

Scientists debate how lethal COVID is. Some say it's now less risky than flu

Edited September 16, 2022 by Muscle2002

[BashiChuni]

Narrative is collapsing. Lotta posters on here need to eat some serious crow. 
 

it’s only gonna get worse for the COVID crazies in the coming years. 

[Biff_T]

[ClearedHot]

 

[Sim]

Pandomic is over. 

 

 

 

[ATIS]

8 hours ago, Sim said:

Pandemic is over. 

Until it’s conveniently not over

[GrndPndr]

10 hours ago, Sim said:

Pandemic is over. 

Just in time for the election - yay!

[pawnman]

16 hours ago, Sim said:

Pandomic is over. 

 

 

 

Doesn't this make the student loan forgiveness illegal?  Since it was done under the cover of an "emergency order" to combat the pandemic?

[O Face]

34 minutes ago, pawnman said:

Doesn't this make the student loan forgiveness illegal?  Since it was done under the cover of an "emergency order" to combat the pandemic?

I was expecting to the see the Easter bunny jump in front of POTUS again when he said that. 

Lest we forget…

https://www.newsweek.com/video-easter-bunny-interrupting-joe-biden-viewed-5-million-times-1698817

 

Edited September 19, 2022 by O Face
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[dream big]

12 hours ago, pawnman said:

Doesn't this make the student loan forgiveness illegal?  Since it was done under the cover of an "emergency order" to combat the pandemic?

You think his voters and supporters will care about this (over a third of the country surprisingly)?  Most of them don’t even understand basic civics or third grade mathematics.

[Guest LumberjackAxe]

On 9/7/2022 at 2:17 PM, BashiChuni said:

 

would you feel the same way if the government closed your business and drove you into bankruptcy? i'm genuinely curious. because that's what happened to hundreds of thousands of your countrymen.

you don't think there should be accountability for that? or for firing people from not taking an experimental vax that has been proven to not work and/or cause deadly side effects in some people?

you also think it's "Ok" that the white house used twitter and facebook to censor and ban doctors/citizens who had options contrary to the CDC? Opinions that turned out to be 100% correct.

you think it's "ok" that doctors who spoke out against mandatory covid vaccinations and mandatory masking had their medical licenses revoked by their states?

you're good with saying "eh... it let's move on"?

i think you're missing a lot.

this isn't over. not by a long shot.

 

lawsuits are just now being filed and the truth is starting to come out.

I know what you're saying and I get your argument, but that's kind of my point. We know that mask mandates don't work, we know that the federal government completely blew it (both admins as well as the civilian agencies), we now know that the vaccine wasn't effective like a normal vaccine since you could still get it and spread it... we're 2.5 years later and we now have all this data that should convince any reasonable person of the above points (yours included). So that's what I'm referring to: why are people still arguing about mask and vaccine mandates when we now have the data to show they aren't effective? I'm one of those people who was completely in favor of mask and vaccine mandates because I bought into the fear of an unknown virus, but I've now completely flipped my position because we have the data that shows how ineffective these things are. The thing we should be arguing about is what should happen to repair the damage done not just by the virus but by the bungled response? Reparations? Reinstatement of servicemembers? More government spending? I really don't know.

[tac airlifter]

8 hours ago, LumberjackAxe said:

The thing we should be arguing about is what should happen to repair the damage done not just by the virus but by the bungled response? Reparations? Reinstatement of servicemembers? More government spending? I really don't know.

I sympathize with your plight, and applaud your honest self-analysis.  To answer your questions:

step one: cancel existing mandates

step two: accountability from those in power who lied to us

step three: determine origin and respond with wrath 

Reconciliation is impossible without accountability, and it starts with Fauci.

[bfargin]

Color me shocked even though every one warned us not to give to kids (except the government).

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/evidence-grows-stronger-covid-vaccine-link-heart-issue-cdc-says-n1270339?fbclid=IwAR1jkWgQ2c-iS3odDmqABX-Hk7_BecPeZ1PEs9n7riR1SkAh9u-PAwbpubQ

Edited September 28, 2022 by bfargin