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9 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

This is insane. Twitter and big tech censorship is anti-American and needs to be stomped out. 
 

 

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Comply citizen, eat your cud and comply.

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Research team pisses people off by creating new COVID-19 variant with 80% kill rate

The Boston University lab that did this has changed the narrative (like Fauci) and said this is not gain of function.  Apparently another lab in NC is doing the same thing.

Yes, this was done at a level 4 lab but there have been over 1,000 known lab leaks in the past few years.  Yes, we need to understand the virus in order to develop more therapeutics and vaccines but dear got with an 80% kill rate and being five times more transmissible one would think there should be some SERIOUS oversight and public discussion.

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2 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Research team pisses people off by creating new COVID-19 variant with 80% kill rate

The Boston University lab that did this has changed the narrative (like Fauci) and said this is not gain of function.  Apparently another lab in NC is doing the same thing.

Yes, this was done at a level 4 lab but there have been over 1,000 known lab leaks in the past few years.  Yes, we need to understand the virus in order to develop more therapeutics and vaccines but dear got with an 80% kill rate and being five times more transmissible one would think there should be some SERIOUS oversight and public discussion.

Just trust them.  Lol

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That seems like standard media headline fear mongering. The original article doesn't sound so bad. Although I can't imagine how the OG 'rona had a 100% fatality rate in lab mice. In any case, it isn't worse than what emerged in Wuhan all those years ago.
 

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The lab-made virus combined elements of the omicron variant with the original virus. The results were more deadly to mice than omicron, but less deadly than the original virus.

Scientists took the spike protein of an omicron variant of the virus and attached it to a virus of the original strain that spread around the world in 2020. The goal was to study why omicron has a lower rate of severe infections. 

The new, fused virus was then compared to naturally-occurring omicron virus samples. This was done to determine whether the mutations in the omicron spike protein were what caused omicron’s lower levels of severity and increased ability to evade immunity. 

However, the hybrid virus created by BU’s researchers still killed 80% of the lab mice infected with it, making it more deadly than the natural omicron variants. It is crucial to note that the original virus killed 100% of the lab mice exposed to it. 

 

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Lab Leak.

Report from US Senate Committee. https://www.help.senate.gov/ranking/newsroom/press/senate-help-committee-minority-oversight-staff-releases-interim-report-analyzing-origins-of-covid-19-pandemic

An Analysis of the Origins of the COVID-19 Pandemic Interim Report
Senate Committee on Health Education, Labor and Pensions Minority Oversight Staff
October 2022

  • Substantial evidence suggests that the COVID-19 pandemic was the result of a research-related incident associated with a laboratory in Wuhan, China. A research-related incident is consistent with the early epidemiology showing rapid spread of the virus exclusively in Wuhan with the earliest calls for assistance being located in the same district as the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s (WIV) original campus in central Wuhan. The WIV is an epicenter of advanced coronavirus research, where researchers have collected samples of and experimented on high-risk coronaviruses.
  • This report describes a pattern of persistent biosafety problems at the WIV as indicated by a series of patents and procurements relevant to the biocontainment of a highly-pathogenic virus, like SARS-CoV-2. Also outlined in this report are a series of management and training concerns at the WIV further indicating biosafety problems and an unsafe work environment for laboratory personnel. The research-related incident hypothesis also explains the low genetic diversity of the earliest known SARS-CoV-2 human infections and the failure to identify an intermediate host and any animal infections pre-dating human COVID-19 cases.
  • This investigation’s interim report concludes that SARS-CoV-2 and the resulting COVID-19 global pandemic was, more likely than not, the result of a research-related incident associated with coronavirus research in Wuhan, China.   

PDF: https://www.help.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/report_an_analysis_of_the_origins_of_covid-19_102722.pdf

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Yet another thing many of us already knew 2 years ago. Millions of people are batting a .969 on things to do with COVID, but nope, they were all the conspiracy theorists and wing nuts. Funny how that has turned out…

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21 hours ago, Sim said:

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That's brutal. Oof.

A long time ago in a galaxy far away, I worked EMS in the northeast US. I still know a lot of people who have stayed in EMS or have moved up the medical ladder. They were getting their asses kicked in 2020 and I felt bad for them; I talked to a few more in depth. But then some of them went overboard and stated that everyone else should listen to the "experts" with no dissent. 

When I asked them if the citizenry should then just listen to generals ("the experts") in war with no dissent...some seemed to realize what they were saying. Others didn't. 

Families should never be denied the ability to say goodbye to a loved one. I witnessed humans entering and leaving the earth, and it's a heavy experience either way - but at least it's happy when they arrive. 

I was always silently thankful when we kept a person alive long enough for someone to be there to say goodbye. I can't imagine not advocating for that.

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Would be better served if the last panel showed the political hacks that pushed that shit.

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It’s sad, it looks like the story board for some broadway play.. patient’s relative crying in the foreground while the frontline first responders do a musical dance routine in the background.

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COVID response will go down in history as one of our nations worst moments. People will refuse to acknowledge their hateful actions in the decades to come and everyone will say they always opposed the oppressive government policies and un constitutional actions. 

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On 11/4/2022 at 3:57 PM, BashiChuni said:

COVID response will go down in history as one of our nations worst moments. People will refuse to acknowledge their hateful actions in the decades to come and everyone will say they always opposed the oppressive government policies and un constitutional actions. 

Yup. Like most government failures, those responsible scatter like roaches, then somehow return for the next crisis.

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There’s been several statements recently from those on the wrong side of history that go something like, “let’s just all move on and let bygones be bygones, we only did/said things based on our understanding at the time. Let’s just forget about it all!”

Yeah, fuck you. I will not forget, and I hope everyone else doesn’t either. If you demonized others via words (or worse, actions) who called it correctly, but weren’t in line with your thinking at the time - you don’t get a pass because you are still a huge POS. This does not apply to those who remained respectful and maintained human decency despite differing viewpoints. 

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17 minutes ago, brabus said:

There’s been several statements recently from those on the wrong side of history that go something like, “let’s just all move on and let bygones be bygones, we only did/said things based on our understanding at the time. Let’s just forget about it all!”

Yeah, fuck you. I will not forget, and I hope everyone else doesn’t either. If you demonized others via words (or worse, actions) who called it correctly, but weren’t in line with your thinking at the time - you don’t get a pass because you are still a huge POS. This does not apply to those who remained respectful and maintained human decency despite differing viewpoints. 

For instance, this tripe: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/10/covid-response-forgiveness/671879/

I readily admit that I make mistakes and want to learn from them. However, a handful (or more) of people who got it wrong, rather than admitting as much, taking responsibility, and trying to correct it for the future, want their records cleared. These articles are meant to appear as a mea culpa, but they are not. They are merely another sleight-of-hand trick performed to dupe the masses.

Further, the article above is just another instance of virtue signaling. The author is trying to signal her side's moral superiority—note her exhortation to not gloat—by declaring a newfound erudition while advertising an outright revisionist narrative that does not just strain credulity but shatters it. While one cannot lay the blame for one person's actions at the feet of a movement, we all distinctly recall the diatribe coming people when anyone dared oppose. A generally unified front used "trusting the science" as a cudgel to beat actual scientists, critical thinkers, and others. To attempt to overlook numerous ethical failings—after all, when one takes actions counter to one's thoughts, it belies moral weakness—by simply sweeping them aside as the fruit of uncertainty is intellectually dishonest. That she does so under the guise of civility is ironic and disgusting. 

The audacity to write, "But dwelling on the mistakes of history can lead to a repetitive doom loop as well. Let’s acknowledge that we made complicated choices in the face of deep uncertainty, and then try to work together to build back and move forward" is galling. For an apparent vanguard or thought-leader in the "trust the science" movement, it seems that they would welcome an intelligent, fact-based, civil discourse that offered ways to avoid the mistakes of the past. Yet, "trust the science" was always just a bumper-sticker moniker to short-circuit frontal lobe activity among the masses with docile compliance the aim.

 

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