COVID-19 (Aka China Virus)

[17D_guy]

23 minutes ago, 08Dawg said:

Speak the Devil’s name...Ramstein is worried about the important things

40 days to terminal...can't catch me!  Also, our Shirt said in today's Sq sync that he wanted to throat punch whoever put that out.  Shirt's going to fit in fine.

[HU&W]

[drewpey]

1 hour ago, HU&W said:

get double the use out of the shirts before the phase out date!

[Sua Sponte]

A former C-130 driver I was stationed with at Little Rock, now with JetBlue, died today because of COVID. Fuck this thing.

[Stoker]

11 hours ago, war007afa said:

I look at it from the standpoint of sex:  pulling out isn't the best method of birth control.  However, it's better than not pulling out, especially when I can't get a condom.  Now find a way to make that work for masks.

You're welcome.

The problem is if it makes you think you're safe(r), you're more likely to engage in hazardous activity. Plus, touch your face a ton fixing the mask. It's like people wearing gloves, it makes people feel safe and all but guarantees they aren't washing their hands.

[FLEA]

Just learn how to take advantage of the situation. See how long you can go without shaving now! 

Edited April 8, 2020 by FLEA

[AirGuardianC141747]

8 hours ago, Stoker said:

The problem is if it makes you think you're safe(r), you're more likely to engage in hazardous activity. Plus, touch your face a ton fixing the mask. It's like people wearing gloves, it makes people feel safe and all but guarantees they aren't washing their hands.

Just speaking for myself and others I work with (yes, we’re still flying) we do pretty well wiping the flight deck down even after the cleaning crew has done their job. It guarantees nothing, just more prudent. (And no we don’t wear masks once we’re ready to go.) It’s not motorcycling, skateboarding, etc. It makes me more self aware and I don’t get closer, try to mingle or shake hands with anybody because of it. I guess it’s about self discipline and acclimating to a mask. Once my mask is on, it’s on and no fixing - others may fiddle with it uncomfortably I guess. My gloves are on during outings, thrown into the wash or latex thrown away once I get back home. Wash my hands/face and resume normal home activities. But I guess I must declare I cheat the “normal” tendencies since I wear a CPAP. Don’t fiddle with it at night and the N95 mask doesn’t bother during minor outings during the day which we should be adhering too. Bottom line, I am not subjecting my family to negligence on my part as best I can. It may prove futile, but there’s no harm in effort.

Look at Biden, coughing then touching his face immediately afterwards with the same hand. But that’s something else besides lack of discipline.

Edited April 8, 2020 by AirGuardianC141747

[FDNYOldGuy]

9 hours ago, Stoker said:

The problem is if it makes you think you're safe(r), you're more likely to engage in hazardous activity. Plus, touch your face a ton fixing the mask. It's like people wearing gloves, it makes people feel safe and all but guarantees they aren't washing their hands.

The new rules are like the TSA, but for everyone’s health and without the excitement of advanced screening pat-downs. All mostly theater to make it seem like something is being done and to give some folks warm and fuzzies.

[AirGuardianC141747]

Well maybe your right. Using Taiwan, Singapore, Korea and Hong Kong as examples, they did extremely well comparatively to us and others. Hong Kong 7.5 million Population, under 1,000 cases, 4 deaths. Definitely having been thru SARS helped, borders are different, but I would give it to the local discipline/culture. We enjoy incredible freedoms beyond most which I cherish and I wouldn’t swap with China and have my doors welded shut that is for sure. This is an unfortunate learning experience. Definitely nothing compared to what the Greatest Generation endured, but baby steps hopefully not needed, ever. Just an opinion.

[Stoker]

37 minutes ago, AirGuardianC141747 said:

Well maybe your right. Using Taiwan, Singapore, Korea and Hong Kong as examples, they did extremely well comparatively to us and others. Hong Kong 7.5 million Population, under 1,000 cases, 4 deaths. Definitely having been thru SARS helped, borders are different, but I would give it to the local discipline/culture. We enjoy incredible freedoms beyond most which I cherish and I wouldn’t swap with China and have my doors welded shut that is for sure. This is an unfortunate learning experience. Definitely nothing compared to what the Greatest Generation endured, but baby steps hopefully not needed, ever. Just an opinion.

Yeah, those countries' stay-at-home-orders were "stay at home, if you come out you're going to jail." Not our version where you go pick up some baking supplies, play some basketball at the community center, hit the gym, go touch some playground equipment, etc., etc. Ours will work at flattening the curve, but you're not gonna suppress the virus that way.

[17D_guy]

20 hours ago, AirGuardianC141747 said:

Well maybe your right. Using Taiwan, Singapore, Korea and Hong Kong as examples, they did extremely well comparatively to us and others. Hong Kong 7.5 million Population, under 1,000 cases, 4 deaths. Definitely having been thru SARS helped, borders are different, but I would give it to the local discipline/culture. We enjoy incredible freedoms beyond most which I cherish and I wouldn’t swap with China and have my doors welded shut that is for sure. This is an unfortunate learning experience. Definitely nothing compared to what the Greatest Generation endured, but baby steps hopefully not needed, ever. Just an opinion.

Here in South TX because "dagnamit ain't no gubment gonna tell me" I now have to do the grocery shopping.  People will not maintain any distance or wear masks/facecovering.  In fact, they're even more prone to get close to you than before (if you're wearing a mask) to "prove how much they don't care."  Wife had to yell at some old dude crossing the floor lines to check out repeatedly and coughing.  All these fake ass cowboys, not one bandana to tie around their dumb ass grills.

On the news was a dude who "wouldn't ever take orders from no store help, he's a man" and posted about it all over Instagram.  (HEB is fantastic though, I now get the "close the commissary" comments we had a few years ago.)

City shut down the large gatherings...Governor opened back up the churches. 

Edited April 9, 2020 by 17D_guy

[hindsight2020]

Yeah, we're dealing with the same assclownery in Central TX. 

[LookieRookie]

You’re both talking about the same area.

[M2]

Was at the Lackland commissary yesterday afternoon doing the family shopping.  Was amazed at how many old folks were there without masks and/or gloves.  Same for the younger generation (18-24).  I would guesstimate less than half were complying with the face covering requirement.  

Yeah, I felt a bit like an idiot wearing a Condor multi-wrap on my face and disposable gloves; but I don't need this shit.  I don't buy into the panic, but it's idiotic not to take at least basic precautions.  

[Orbit]

We are not allowed to go anywhere off base other than our "primary residence" and everyone in the commissary/BX is required to wear a mask.  Is this not the norm for other bases?

[herkbum]

We are not allowed to go anywhere off base other than our "primary residence" and everyone in the commissary/BX is required to wear a mask.  Is this not the norm for other bases?

Norm for Altus


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[BashiChuni]

You guys honesty think wearing gloves is going to do a damn thing? GMAFB

[stuckindayton]

3 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

You guys honesty think wearing gloves is going to do a damn thing? GMAFB

It can't hurt.  Why are you so passionate against it?

Edited April 10, 2020 by stuckindayton

[Stoker]

1 hour ago, stuckindayton said:

It can't hurt.  Why are you so passionate against it?

Because people wearing gloves don't wash their hands or use hand sanitizer. It's a false sense of security.

[BashiChuni]

a lot of things “can’t hurt” but we don’t do them. It’s time to face this virus head on and open up the economy. 

[JBueno]

Got stopped at the commissary door today because I didn’t have a face covering. By three people wearing face coverings and literally standing shoulder to shoulder.

I’m excited for tomorrow’s preventive measure of the day. Hopefully we can all self- radicalize to support whatever they say it is next. Remember to shame your neighbors over this previously unmentioned mitigation strategy.

Edited April 10, 2020 by JBueno

[waveshaper]

12 hours ago, 17D_guy said:

Here in South TX because "dagnamit ain't no gubment gonna tell me" I now have to do the grocery shopping.  People will not maintain any distance or wear masks/facecovering.  In fact, they're even more prone to get close to you than before (if you're wearing a mask) to "prove how much they don't care."  Wife had to yell at some old dude crossing the floor lines to check out repeatedly and coughing.  All these fake ass cowboys, not one bandana to tie around their dumb ass grills.

This style mask should fix folks safe distance problems in most places they shop. TBD if it will work in South Texas?

 

[gearhog]

On 4/7/2020 at 6:57 PM, Sua Sponte said:

A former C-130 driver I was stationed with at Little Rock, now with JetBlue, died today because of COVID. Fuck this thing.

I knew Kevin as well from college. Terrible news.

[pawnman]

10 hours ago, stuckindayton said:

It can't hurt.  Why are you so passionate against it?

Because I've seen how baggers at the commissary and workers at Chick-fil-A wear them.  Put on a pair at the beginning of your shift, bag everyone stuff, cough into your hands, rub your eyes, scratch the top of your head, bag some more groceries...

It might work if they were changing gloves regularly or using SOME kind of restraint with where they put their hands.  As it is, all it does is keep them from washing their hands more often.

[FLEA]

27 minutes ago, pawnman said:

Because I've seen how baggers at the commissary and workers at Chick-fil-A wear them.  Put on a pair at the beginning of your shift, bag everyone stuff, cough into your hands, rub your eyes, scratch the top of your head, bag some more groceries...

It might work if they were changing gloves regularly or using SOME kind of restraint with where they put their hands.  As it is, all it does is keep them from washing their hands more often.

Surprised they still have baggers. They did away with them in Europe. (Speaking on base here, and because of the virus). 

Edited April 10, 2020 by FLEA