COVID-19 (Aka China Virus)

[BashiChuni]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/21/opinion/do-mask-mandates-work.html

 

Edited February 22, 2023 by BashiChuni

[brabus]

No lessons will be learned by far too many people in the govt and this country in general. 

[BashiChuni]

I agree. More importantly the article in the NYT states masks do not work. 
 

standing by for apologies from the COVID fanatics on here

[jrizzell]

I agree. More importantly the article in the NYT states masks do not work. 
 
standing by for apologies from the COVID fanatics on here

The COVIDIANS will never apologize for their religious beliefs. It’s part of who they are.


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[Swizzle]

7 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/21/opinion/do-mask-mandates-work.html

 

Yeah, I got one...group think, blind trust, shee-ople rules more peoples thoughts and actions than logic or rationale. Emotional rationale and arguments are too strong for some who'd rather maintain integrity with the flock, and virtue signal their herd-loyalty than be free, rational thinkers. Beware of these lemmings near cliffs. Oh, and save up some f u savings money so their influence over you is less, and your freedom is more. 

[HeloDude]

7 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

standing by for apologies from the COVID fanatics on here

Are you referring to the guy on here who proudly said that if he was a commander that he would give Article 15s to those who didn’t have a covid shot and weren’t wearing their mask when required to do so?  No, he won’t apologize.

[FourFans]

On 5/17/2021 at 3:34 PM, pawnman said:

Were I commander, I'd just take note of anyone who didn't wear a mask. When they make the covid shot mandatory, anyone not wearing a mask who pops red on IMR gets an article 15.

You mean this guy @pawnman?   How dare you go calling people out for words they said!

Edited February 22, 2023 by FourFans130

[BashiChuni]

1 hour ago, HeloDude said:

Are you referring to the guy on here who proudly said that if he was a commander that he would give Article 15s to those who didn’t have a covid shot and weren’t wearing their mask when required to do so?  No, he won’t apologize.

oh that guy?! 😉

[slc]

Yahtzee!!

[ATIS]

Restaurants, jobs asked for proof of COVID vaccine. So did it increase DC’s vaccine rates? - WTOP News

 

“Their intended outcomes were to raise vaccination rates, for people to get more vaccines; and consequently, the expectation was that COVID cases and deaths would go down,” noted Vitor Melo, a postdoctoral fellow at the Mercatus Center.

As compared to cities that didn’t implement mandates, Melo said his study found “there’s not much to show for it.”

“COVID cases were not affected, COVID deaths were not affected, and really, there’s no evidence that people got more vaccinated because of these mandates,” Melo said.

While admitting the mandates had an impact on people who wouldn’t get vaccinated, Melo added “there really doesn’t seem much to show for it.”

[HeloDude]

3 hours ago, FourFans130 said:

You mean this guy @pawnman?   How dare you go calling people out for words they said!

Yep.  To my awareness he hasn't tried to take back his remarks, so his original post stands.

[pawnman]

4 hours ago, FourFans130 said:

You mean this guy @pawnman?   How dare you go calling people out for words they said!

Keep dragging it up if you want.  Maybe the rest of you are comfortable with a blatant violation of a direct order that doesn't even involve injecting yourself with a vaccine.

And we wonder why so many airman can't take direction...

But, to appease you all - yes, the masks were stupid.  I've been asked to do a lot of stupid things in my career.  Rarely have I seen one painted as such a political issue as this one.

Edited February 22, 2023 by pawnman

[slc]

2 hours ago, pawnman said:

Maybe the rest of you are comfortable with a blatant violation of a direct order that doesn't even involve injecting yourself with a vaccine.

I just had a flashback of circa '04 at the Deid w/ reflective belts/cargo shorts in the chow hall and other such orders which I apparently blatantly "violated" Lol

[HeloDude]

Years ago, in Iraq during the summertime when the AC wasn’t working too well, I once rolled up my flight suit sleeves when it wasn’t allowed.  Good thing my commander didn’t give me an Article 15.

[BashiChuni]

9 hours ago, pawnman said:

But, to appease you all - yes, the masks were stupid.

thank you pawnman.

 

[brabus]

19 hours ago, pawnman said:

Maybe the rest of you are comfortable with a blatant violation of a direct order that doesn't even involve injecting yourself with a vaccine

To be honest, yeah I am, for stupid shit like flight suit sleeves, reflective belts, PT gear while deployed, and masks.  I do plenty of the other stupid shit like useless CBTs, show up 6.9 hrs early for the rotator, 1206s, and a thousand other things I didn’t like/disagreed with. It’s called critically thinking and being OK with living in the gray (and that’s what wins fights, not zero critical thought yes men). But none of that’s important, what’s important is you’re like every shitty E-9 who has zero critical thinking skills and touts illogical shit like, “if you can’t tuck your PT shit in, how can I trust you to drop a bomb.” You’re willing to Art 15 people over nonsensical bullshit that has zero impact on mission accomplishment. I’ll give you one thing though, you are completely owning it and making it easy to know what kind of a person you are. 

[BashiChuni]

[Biff_T]

13 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

[chris99]

On 1/18/2023 at 3:07 AM, Guardian said:

Define the situation you are referring to specifically please. As you allude to multiple situations and viewpoints.

I'll take a stab at it. H.R.25 (the Fair Tax Act) would be a good solution in my opinion, but Pres. Biden has threatened to veto it if it passes. If you aren't yet aware, the Fair Tax has been proposed in Congress regularly since around 2005 but has never seen a vote. The Democrats/mainstream media try to paint it as a 30% regressive tax that will increase the middle-class tax burden. But if you read the actual bill, you'll find out why it's never seen a vote and why politicians hate it so much: it takes lobbyist money out of their pockets and takes away the control they exert with the IRS. The bill completely does away with the incompetent IRS (which fails to collect a TRILLION dollars of owed taxes each year: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-treasury-irs/irs-chief-says-1-trillion-in-taxes-goes-uncollected-every-year-idUSKBN2C0255) which costs over $12 billion to fund each year. This means there will be no federal income tax or payroll taxes withheld from your paycheck and you won't have to file federal taxes each year (it gets rid of capital gains taxes as well). The Fair Tax is also progressive in the sense that everyone (every registered household) will receive a monthly prebate (rebate) check to cover purchases of necessities up to the federal poverty level. This effectively makes the tax rate 0% up to the poverty level and then it staggers up to 23% based on what you buy. This is key because it encourages saving money and purchasing used goods since the tax will only be levied on new goods and services. You are now in control of your tax rate based on what you choose to buy or not buy.

The Fair Tax would get rid of tens of thousands of pages of IRS tax code and replace it with 100-200 pages of tax code. Politicians don't like it because it closes all the tax loopholes people like Warren Buffet and Donald Trump use to pay less taxes than middle-class Americans. It also get rid of corporate (and export) taxes (which only get passed through to the consumer anyway). This will bring businesses and jobs back to American soil because there will be no reason to move them offshore any longer (except maybe wages for labor). It is also fair because everyone (regardless of income) pays the same rate. This is important because we are recently seeing a huge jump in rich people moving overseas to avoid taxation (https://calbizjournal.com/why-wealthy-people-are-giving-up-their-american-citizenship/). Also, it will potentially bring in more money because all the people that don't pay taxes now (career criminals, undocumented immigrants, pimps, etc.) will then be paying sales tax at the register for new goods/services. Most states are already equipped to collect sales tax so it won't be a huge transition. I wish people would spin the monthly prebate checks as "reparations" because then lots more people might support it. 🙂 Wikipedia has a lot of the details regarding the amount of the prebate checks, etc.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairTax.

[Sim]

 

Good rant by Jimmy Dore. Time stamp 12 28  for two-ish minutes. 

[BashiChuni]

I’m old enough to remember Facebook censoring “misinformation” posts claiming COVID leaked from a lab. How about that?

[GrndPndr]

1 hour ago, BashiChuni said:

I’m old enough to remember Facebook censoring “misinformation” posts claiming COVID leaked from a lab. How about that?

There is a very complete story on the WSJ today about this.  Let me apologize in advance for those of you who do not have a subscription, I'll post the first few lines from the story below:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-origin-china-lab-leak-807b7b0a?mod=hp_lead_pos1

The U.S. Energy Department has concluded that the Covid pandemic most likely arose from a laboratory leak, according to a classified intelligence report recently provided to the White House and key members of Congress.

The shift by the Energy Department, which previously was undecided on how the virus emerged, is noted in an update to a 2021 document by Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines’s office.

The new report highlights how different parts of the intelligence community have arrived at disparate judgments about the pandemic’s origin. The Energy Department now joins the Federal Bureau of Investigation in saying the virus likely spread via a mishap at a Chinese laboratory. Four other agencies, along with a national intelligence panel, still judge that it was likely the result of a natural transmission, and two are undecided.

The Energy Department’s conclusion is the result of new intelligence and is significant because the agency has considerable scientific expertise and oversees a network of U.S. national laboratories, some of which conduct advanced biological research.

The Energy Department made its judgment with “low confidence,” according to people who have read the classified report.

The FBI previously came to the conclusion that the pandemic was likely the result of a lab leak in 2021 with “moderate confidence” and still holds to this view.

Edited February 26, 2023 by GrndPndr

[ViperMan]

All I can say to the DOE is "duh." The rest will come around in due time.

You'll see we become "more confident" in our assessment of the lab leak theory as tensions continue to rise with China. This, in and of itself, will indicate exactly why it was dismissed as conspiracy at the very beginning.

[BashiChuni]

5 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

I’m old enough to remember Facebook censoring “misinformation” posts claiming COVID leaked from a lab. How about that?

 

[BashiChuni]

There are a lot of shoes to drop and people to prosecute. Fauci being top of the list.