glockenspiel Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 11:37 PM, brabus said: A lot will is my guess. Certainly has been the case in my neck of the woods. And now we’ve got healthy/low-risk members with some real health problems due to the vax…wreck their lives all while potentially leading down the road of med retirement or at least get out ASAP. I wish I was making this up. Expand Holy shit man. When does this stop? We are on a train with no brakes. 1
Negatory Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y Nature preprint of a large study showing that transmission approaches nearly unvaccinated levels just 3 months post vax.
Lowspeedhidrag Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/9/2021 at 2:18 AM, Negatory said: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y Nature preprint of a large study showing that transmission approaches nearly unvaccinated levels just 3 months post vax. Expand Yup....didn't see that coming. Multiple mandatory boosters per year.......follow the science....(money)
Guest Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) On 10/8/2021 at 9:06 PM, Lowspeedhidrag said: If anyone still thinks this is about 'public health', I want some of what they're smoking..... I Expand LOL. Exempli Gratia: - 1,000 civilian medical staff who quit over not taking an unresearched drug. +1,000 guardsmen medical staff acquired to fill the gap. —————————- = 0 medical staff gained in total because those same medical staff guardsmen now aren’t at their civilian medical staff jobs. Is this the common core math Barry Soetoro was talking about? Orrrrr they could just, you know, not force people to inject themselves with something they don’t want and these people wouldn’t leave their jobs. Edited October 9, 2021 by dogfish78
Negatory Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 Want to remind you guys that this is not something that has been like this. In fact, there are multiple studies showing that for the alpha variant this was not and is not the case - it more effectively prevented transmission in the original strains. Lets not pretend like this was expected or some conspiracy. Delta changed things, and now we must update our expectations and game plan. This is actually how science works. 1 3 2
dream big Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 7:56 PM, Guardian said: Not only is it safe and effective we are at a high percentage of compliance and all of those wanted to get the shot. I wonder how many got the shot under duress. Expand Before it was mandatory? Numerous second hand accounts of being bullied by supervisors/commanders if not shamed.
Lowspeedhidrag Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 I wonder what big blue is going to insert in to me next......I trust DOD leadership. 1
Guest Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/9/2021 at 6:37 PM, BashiChuni said: Expand Reminder: The CDC's current behavior is the same behavior which led the Thirteen British Colonies to quickly become the United States of America.
Danger41 Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/9/2021 at 6:46 PM, dogfish78 said: Reminder: The CDC's current behavior is the same behavior which led the Thirteen British Colonies to quickly become the United States of America. Expand They’re coming after our tea? Bastards!
Sim Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 12:53 PM, Maximus57 said: This product has not been approved or licensed by FDA, but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA, under an EUA. 3) Comirnaty (the ONLY FDA licensed and labeled vaccine) is not available! Expand https://gab.com/a/posts/107075532123265514 So....according to Pfizer, Comirnaty is NOT available.
CaptainMorgan Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 12:52 PM, Sim said: https://gab.com/a/posts/107075532123265514 So....according to Pfizer, Comirnaty is NOT available. According to everyone else it has been. Oneconfused phone rep doesn’t change the facts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Lord Ratner Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 On 10/9/2021 at 3:46 AM, Negatory said: Want to remind you guys that this is not something that has been like this. In fact, there are multiple studies showing that for the alpha variant this was not and is not the case - it more effectively prevented transmission in the original strains. Lets not pretend like this was expected or some conspiracy. Delta changed things, and now we must update our expectations and game plan. This is actually how science works. Expand Agreed, except this was a completely foreseeable and realistic outcome. So when policy is developed to toss a hand grenade into the economy and the societal norms at large, a realistic possibility that a mutation will completely negate the monumental fist-fucking the policy exerts on society should be cause to perhaps view said-policy with skepticism. The vaccine is still life-saving, but saving your own life isn't (and shouldn't be) compulsory. The justifications for until-now unthinkable government intervention have been completely invalidated by Delta, but the damage done by furthering the political team sports will not be so easily erased. Let's see how long it takes the party of "follow the science" to acknowledge these studies and adapt their policies. I'm not holding my breath. 2 3
tac airlifter Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 1:14 PM, CaptainMorgan said: According to everyone else it has been. One confused phone rep doesn’t change the facts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Expand I was told by Med Group Comirnaty will not be available in the US (at least for DOD, I didn’t ask about the country writ large). Military members are ordered to take the FDA approved vaccine, and Pfiezer is “chemically identical” per company literature, therefore they are ordered to take Pfiezer. It begs the question why Pfiezer isn’t the FDA approved vaccine; why the rebranding and lack of availability in the United States? And why are we trusting company literature? The FDA made no claim that Pfiezer was identical. Feels like a bait and switch.
Guest Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 1:21 PM, tac airlifter said: I was told by Med Group Comirnaty will not be available in the US (at least for DOD, I didn’t ask about the country writ large). Military members are ordered to take the FDA approved vaccine, and Pfiezer is “chemically identical” per company literature, therefore they are ordered to take Pfiezer. It begs the question why Pfiezer isn’t the FDA approved vaccine; why the rebranding and lack of availability in the United States? And why are we trusting company literature? The FDA made no claim that Pfiezer was identical. Feels like a bait and switch. Expand Dude seriously? You’re gonna sit there and disobey a direct order? Inject yourself with the Pfizer science juice. It’s not like it will affect you long after you leave the military. It’s been approved. Pfizer said so. Stop listening to the FDA scientists. The CDC Director knows what’s she’s doing.
FLEA Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 1:21 PM, tac airlifter said: I was told by Med Group Comirnaty will not be available in the US (at least for DOD, I didn’t ask about the country writ large). Military members are ordered to take the FDA approved vaccine, and Pfiezer is “chemically identical” per company literature, therefore they are ordered to take Pfiezer. It begs the question why Pfiezer isn’t the FDA approved vaccine; why the rebranding and lack of availability in the United States? And why are we trusting company literature? The FDA made no claim that Pfiezer was identical. Feels like a bait and switch. Expand I think because there is more to the approval than just the chemical compound that results. Everything from labeling to directions, packaging, manufacturing conditions, and supply transport are also evaluated. The FDA likely had no way to verify those conditions were identical in earlier Pfizer batches. There is a letter from Pfizer that actually details what the ONLY interchangeable batches with Cominarty are, I posted it earlier in this thread. 2
arg Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 ABC reported it too. https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/florida-flights-cancelled-air-traffic-controllers-conduct-mass-sickout-to-protest-vaccine-mandate/ 2
Guest Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 4:27 PM, arg said: ABC reported it too. https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/florida-flights-cancelled-air-traffic-controllers-conduct-mass-sickout-to-protest-vaccine-mandate/ Expand Stay strong ATC bros. You people have more balls than our own DoD does. Sad. Sickouts work. Get ready for the electrical linemen next 🙂
brabus Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 If the lineman walk out as winter sets in, whoa boy! I almost wish it to happen, as they’d be fighting the unjust bullshit this admin is pushing down our throats, and it’d be entertaining to watch all the douchebags lose their minds without electrical power…hmm, guess being a smug, condescending asshole doesn’t keep you warm in winter, who knew! 3
Guest Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 4:49 PM, brabus said: If the lineman walk out as winter sets in, whoa boy! I almost wish it to happen, as they’d be fighting the unjust bullshit this admin is pushing down our throats, and it’d be entertaining to watch all the douchebags lose their minds without electrical power…hmm, guess being a smug, condescending asshole doesn’t keep you warm in winter, who knew! Expand If the linemen do, I’ll be so happy. I’ll be toasty with my wood fireplace and food/water supplies for months. The smug media shitting on tradesmen for years because they didn’t get a worthless university degree would get a taste of how quick reality sets in when they can’t use a microwave, post to Twitter, or fuel up their vehicle. Lineman are the most critical tradesmen in our nation in regards to shutting down infrastructure that affects the most serious things.
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