Covid Injection Tyranny - Share and Discuss

[ThreeHoler]

This just in:

DELTA OMICRON = MEDIA CONTROL

Now you know why they skipped the other letters.


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[FT11]

6 minutes ago, glockenspiel said:

The force will be immensely stronger without all the selfish antivaxxers in it. They claim to have “served honorably” but they were just in hiding for their decades of service, and their true colors are being shown now. Boot em all. Self righteous bastards.

Tend to agree…I know 4 pilots at our base refusing the vaccine…harsh truth be told, 4 out of 4 are at best average pilots and slightly below average people - they won’t be missed, the community won’t feel their loss - time to move on. 

[dream big]

28 minutes ago, glockenspiel said:

The force will be immensely stronger without all the selfish antivaxxers in it. They claim to have “served honorably” but they were just in hiding for their decades of service, and their true colors are being shown now. Boot em all. Self righteous bastards.

Jesus, I don’t agree with those refusing the vaccine but good lord, I hope you aren’t in a position of command or power in the Air Force.  

[pawnman]

16 minutes ago, dream big said:

Jesus, I don’t agree with those refusing the vaccine but good lord, I hope you aren’t in a position of command or power in the Air Force.  

Pretty sure it's sarcasm given his post history.

[glockenspiel]

30 minutes ago, dream big said:

Jesus, I don’t agree with those refusing the vaccine but good lord, I hope you aren’t in a position of command or power in the Air Force.  

It was a joke lol! Just echoing the absurd sentiment that  reduces a persons service history to one choice. 1D analysis.

[dream big]

23 minutes ago, glockenspiel said:

It was a joke lol! Just echoing the absurd sentiment that  reduces a persons service history to one choice. 1D analysis.

My bad! Sadly the sentiment you were mocking is more common than we think and not surprising. 

[TheNewGazmo]

None of these products contains ground up babies for flavor.

What about Baby Batter?

[GoodSplash9]

On 12/18/2021 at 9:38 PM, pawnman said:

Enjoy your civilian job. None of us are irreplaceable. The Air Force will, without a doubt, find a way to continue without your leadership and aviation experience. 

No doubt. The pilot crisis and retention issues also bode really well for passed over navs and other terrible officers who had no shot at O-5 or leadership positions in the old AF.

On 12/18/2021 at 9:38 PM, Lord Ratner said:

Which part? Doesn't matter for COVID, or doesn't matter for anything?

 

Religious accommodations are not granted for many medical things, regardless of sincere beliefs. Your option is to not join. COVID is new, so there are new considerations. But if your sincere beliefs regarding COVID vaccination aren't logically consistent with other medical decisions you've made as a military member pre-COVID, then they aren't sincere beliefs, are they?

 

Don't lose the moral high ground by being reflexively anti-everything.

You really aren't reading, seeing, or hearing. Admittedly, I've unknowingly taken vaccines grown or developed with fetal stem cells derived from abortions (discussed in detail in my RA). I sure as hell didn't know it was in them or used in development. I've also grown in my knowledge, understanding, and commitment to my faith, and it won't be happening in my body every again. I still don't understand why that offends you so much or you act like people like me are a threat. I've flown in the same airspace, been in the stack, probably bumped into you somewhere stateside...I literally can't fathom the vitriol and fear you have, it's kind of sad. Approving an RA for me would be the same situation as we were in for the first 1.5 years of the COVID outbreak before we had vaccines. I still haven't caught COVID (verified by T cell and antibody tests), and my honest observation is the military did really well overall (the huge impacts I observed were due to ROM & precautionary quarantine).

My opposition is to both fetal stem cell use and RNA/DNA....both or either are a no-go for me. Whether you agree or like it, RNA/DNA/viral vector technology is brand new (logically consistent that this is different) in humans and also brand new as in never been used or injected into my body. Your argument that people can't change, grow, or do better in any type of belief or practice is also false and stupid. I'm not arguing or disputing whether or not it works or if it is healthy (even if it cured death and prevented all sickness I wouldn't be touching it). I'm 100% convinced through prayer and study of scripture that the method for how this technology works is abhorrent and wrong before my God (reference Genesis chapters 6 & 11...topic being humanity thinking it can ignore and do better then their creator). Every one of us will stand before God the creator in judgement and accountability for what we do in this life...your feelings and opinion don't change that. Good luck chasing wealth/health/pleasure in this world and thinking you can live however you want without accountability; I truly hope people like you will wake up to the truth.

Edited December 19, 2021 by GoodSplash9

[Waingro]

49 minutes ago, GoodSplash9 said:

No doubt. The pilot crisis and retention issues also bode really well for passed over navs and other terrible officers who had no shot at O-5 or leadership positions in the old AF.

They definitely have more career options than a senior major with zero TPIC who is barely a year removed from initial aircraft qualification. That decade of RPA experience doesn't buy you much in the private sector, and no ARC unit is going to touch someone who has been separated for vaccine refusal. Sucks that you're being separated with nothing to show for your time. Be careful where you throw those spears, a passed over nav is in a vastly better position with respect to career progression, both in the service and out, than you are about to be.

[Prozac]

52 minutes ago, GoodSplash9 said:

I still don't understand why that offends you so much or you act like people like me are a threat.

I don't think anyone sees you as a threat.  You are probably a perfectly competent aviator.  Hell, you may be Chuck Yeager for all I know.  But as your belief system has grown, you may have grown incompatible with military service.  What happens when the next deployment location requires US mil personnel to be fully vaccinated? Do you get a pass because of your religious beliefs? Does Lt Snuffy have to miss yet another Christmas/Kid's Birthday/Wedding/etc. so the AF can accommodate you? Why should you be accommodated if it means someone else has to suffer?

[Mark1]

42 minutes ago, GoodSplash9 said:

I'm 100% convinced through prayer and study of scripture that the method for how this technology works is abhorrent and wrong before my God (reference Genesis chapters 6 & 11...topic being humanity thinking it can ignore and do better then their creator). Every one of us will stand before God the creator in judgement and accountability for what we do in this life...your feelings and opinion don't change that. Good luck chasing wealth/health/pleasure in this world and thinking you can live however you want without accountability; I truly hope people like you will wake up to the truth.

Why would you seek accommodation to remain part of an organization that is actively sanctioning and promoting use of something that spits in the face of god?  Even if they accommodate your individual objections, they are pushing it on the masses that don't share your enlightenment, and that is the work of the devil.  Seeking individual religious accommodation does nothing to redeem the organization that you would continue to be a part of.  Seems you're pursuing exemption for the sake of money/safety/comfort at the expense of your righteousness.  Wouldn't the righteous thing be to resign rather than seek accommodation?

I'm sad that I'll never live to see it, but it gives me great comfort to know that religious delusion is gradually losing out to the true enlightenment of reason, and though it will never disappear altogether, my great-great-great grandchildren will live in a world where it is so utterly insignificant as to be meaningless.  Praise god.

[glockenspiel]

1 hour ago, Mark1 said:

Why would you seek accommodation to remain part of an organization that is actively sanctioning and promoting use of something that spits in the face of god?  Even if they accommodate your individual objections, they are pushing it on the masses that don't share your enlightenment, and that is the work of the devil.  Seeking individual religious accommodation does nothing to redeem the organization that you would continue to be a part of.  Seems you're pursuing exemption for the sake of money/safety/comfort at the expense of your righteousness.  Wouldn't the righteous thing be to resign rather than seek accommodation?

I'm sad that I'll never live to see it, but it gives me great comfort to know that religious delusion is gradually losing out to the true enlightenment of reason, and though it will never disappear altogether, my great-great-great grandchildren will live in a world where it is so utterly insignificant as to be meaningless.  Praise god.

keep on the watch for those god darn (notice the little “g” in god bahahahah) simpletons of such lowly character and intellect in our military. 

Pawn has passed the baton of stirring the pot onto a valiant steed.

god speed bro. Keep stirrin👍🏼

[arg]

This should scare everybody into getting the shot. And the empty suit is going to preach to us on Tuesday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-coronavirus-omicron-is-going-to-take-over-this-winter-and-fauci-says-americans-should-brace-for-a-tough-few-weeks-to-months/ar-AARXxel?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/why-omicron-could-bring-the-deadliest-phase-in-the-pandemic-yet/ar-AARXLjH?ocid=msedgntp

[CaptainMorgan]

keep on the watch for those god darn (notice the little “g” in god bahahahah) simpletons of such lowly character and intellect in our military. 
Pawn has passed the baton of stirring the pot onto a valiant steed.

god speed bro. Keep stirrin

Right, because bible thumpers like you are known for your superior intellect.


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[Herkdrvr]

3 hours ago, GoodSplash9 said:

(even if it cured death and prevented all sickness I wouldn't be touching it). 

Interesting.

Parable of the Drowning Man springs to mind.

[DosXX]

3 hours ago, GoodSplash9 said:

My opposition is to both fetal stem cell use and RNA/DNA....both or either are a no-go for me.

I'm curious: if you're offered the Novavax vaccine, which is a traditional protein vaccine (no mRNA) with no use of fetal tissue at any stage of development or testing, will you take it?

[Day Man]

religion has jumped the shark...the sooner we stop glorifying it, the better.

[Pooter]

5 hours ago, GoodSplash9 said:

My opposition is to both fetal stem cell use and RNA/DNA....both or either are a no-go for me. Whether you agree or like it, RNA/DNA/viral vector technology is brand new (logically consistent that this is different) in humans and also brand new as in never been used or injected into my body. Your argument that people can't change, grow, or do better in any type of belief or practice is also false and stupid. I'm not arguing or disputing whether or not it works or if it is healthy (even if it cured death and prevented all sickness I wouldn't be touching it). I'm 100% convinced through prayer and study of scripture that the method for how this technology works is abhorrent and wrong before my God (reference Genesis chapters 6 & 11...topic being humanity thinking it can ignore and do better then their creator). Every one of us will stand before God the creator in judgement and accountability for what we do in this life...your feelings and opinion don't change that. Good luck chasing wealth/health/pleasure in this world and thinking you can live however you want without accountability; I truly hope people like you will wake up to the truth.

Define irony:

The guy who's going to lose his job..

because he's refusing modern medicine..

during a pandemic..

because of something a 2000 year old book told him..

lecturing everyone else on accountability. 

[ViperMan]

4 hours ago, Mark1 said:

I'm sad that I'll never live to see it, but it gives me great comfort to know that religious delusion is gradually losing out to the true enlightenment of reason, and though it will never disappear altogether, my great-great-great grandchildren will live in a world where it is so utterly insignificant as to be meaningless.  Praise god.

I'm not traditionally religious, but do you really think this? IMO all humans are religious - see the new religion of wokism taking root. Some people know what they're religion is called...man other 'enlightened' ones think they're above it. Like it or not, something in your life is functionally equivalent to religion, you just may not know what it is. The religious instinct runs much, much deeper than thinking a dude does or doesn't live in the sky.

[Prozac]

52 minutes ago, ViperMan said:

I'm not traditionally religious, but do you really think this? IMO all humans are religious - see the new religion of wokism taking root. Some people know what they're religion is called...man other 'enlightened' ones think they're above it. Like it or not, something in your life is functionally equivalent to religion, you just may not know what it is. The religious instinct runs much, much deeper than thinking a dude does or doesn't live in the sky.

My philosophy is if a 200 year old book, a guy in a funny hat, a glass of bourbon, or a joint helps you sleep at night, more power to you.  To paraphrase Dave Chapelle: We're all just humans on this earth trying to have an experience.  Where I take issue is when you (royal you) try and push whatever proverbial opiate you subscribe to on me or it becomes destructive to the point of affecting other people.  From a military perspective, I'd argue that destructive threshold is met when you can't live up to the obligations expected of the rest of the mil population.  From a societal perspective, I think the threshold is met when religious beliefs stand in the way of known science to include flat earthers, anti-vaxers (of all stripes), and creationists, to name a few.

[Negatory]

1 hour ago, ViperMan said:

I'm not traditionally religious, but do you really think this? IMO all humans are religious - see the new religion of wokism taking root. Some people know what they're religion is called...man other 'enlightened' ones think they're above it. Like it or not, something in your life is functionally equivalent to religion, you just may not know what it is. The religious instinct runs much, much deeper than thinking a dude does or doesn't live in the sky.

It is overly simplistic to say that all humans are innately religious. I’m not, and I think you’ll find that is true for many others.

[DosXX]

1 hour ago, ViperMan said:

I'm not traditionally religious, but do you really think this? IMO all humans are religious - see the new religion of wokism taking root. Some people know what they're religion is called...man other 'enlightened' ones think they're above it. Like it or not, something in your life is functionally equivalent to religion, you just may not know what it is. The religious instinct runs much, much deeper than thinking a dude does or doesn't live in the sky.

I think it's a generous interpretation of the word 'religious' when I think what you really mean here is ideology. Everyone has an ideology, not everyone follows an organized theistic doctrine, which is what I think most people would agree religion is. 

[Pooter]

1 hour ago, DosXX said:

I think it's a generous interpretation of the word 'religious' when I think what you really mean here is ideology. Everyone has an ideology, not everyone follows an organized theistic doctrine, which is what I think most people would agree religion is. 

Exactly. And the important point here is that not all ideologies are created equal.  An ideology based on the scribblings of goat herders from 2000 years ago translated 690 times and then monetized for centuries is far less productive than an ideology based on basic tenets of scientific inquiry and reason.

[SpeedOfHeat]

8 hours ago, GoodSplash9 said:

(reference Genesis chapters 6 & 11)

See, this is where the discussion has to come to a screeching halt.  There's no way to put it mildly:  The whole of Genesis is a farce.  Every Chapter is demonstrably false and is inconsistent with anything we observe about the universe.

Specifically to your references, Ch 6 is about the "flood" that never happened and the ridiculous notion that a dude built a boat to house 2 of every living creature on Earth.  Ch 11 is about the tower of Babel, and alleges that the human species only originally spoke a single language, which we also know to be demonstrably untrue.  The rest of Ch 11 is a boring account of folks that supposedly lived 200, 400, even 500 years.

You can believe that stuff, that's fine.  But why would anyone entertain your thoughts on science/data/evidence when you've made it clear that those things don't matter to you?  You talk about fetal stem cells and mRNA --- but you think some humans lived to be 500 years old and that the Earth was flooded ~4000 years ago.

Do we invite the flat-earthers or chemtrailers to discussions about space exploration or meteorology?  Of course not.  They're operating under a set of beliefs that don't comport with reality.  Try explaining how a belief in Genesis is in any way different.

In any case, Prozac and Mark1 nailed it.  Ultimately if you are refusing to get any vaccinations from here on out, and if the military universally mandates this particular work of the devil, it seems you have grown incompatible with military service.

[tac airlifter]

54 minutes ago, SpeedOfHeat said:

See, this is where the discussion has to come to a screeching halt.  

Indeed this discussion has come to a screeching halt, although I now understand why so many are contemptible of those seeking a religious accommodation: turns out you’re contemptible of religion itself. Makes perfect sense.

Freedom of religion is one of the basic tenants our country was founded upon. Enshrined in the US Constitution. As military officers, we take an oath to defend the constitution.  

Personally I’d feel like a fraud if I swore to defend a concept I thought was inherently bogus.  As a fellow officer, I am puzzled at those who ostensibly serve to protect the constitution yet distain and despise its core aspects.  But ok, your beliefs don’t have to make sense to me.  🇺🇸

However as a Christian I do understand being despised for Christ: he promised exactly this.  So now conversation comes to a halt and the religious among us each must pray and determine where to draw the line.  “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.”  John 15:18.