TheNewGazmo Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 5 hours ago, arg said: ABC reported it too. https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/florida-flights-cancelled-air-traffic-controllers-conduct-mass-sickout-to-protest-vaccine-mandate/ I can confirm this. My flight out of CLT to TPA was delayed almost 2 hrs that night.
uhhello Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 Southwest needs to take a look at their planes. "weather" is apparently affecting them differently than the rest of the airlines.
hindsight2020 Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, uhhello said: Southwest needs to take a look at their planes. "weather" is apparently affecting them differently than the rest of the airlines. Well, if they don't get a handle on their rollin' coal membership online, they're gonna get 2017 Spirit'd right between the uprights faster than they can spell RLA. The self-immolating over on APC is priceless. So far SWAPA has had to publicly deny their inference more times than Peter denied Jesús, and it's only Monday. Best laid schemes of mice and men.... 🤣 2
FUSEPLUG Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 Well, a pissed off passenger on Twitter heard the pilots were on strike this weekend, so naturally SWAPA needed to circle the wagons… because Twitter.
Alpharatz Posted October 11, 2021 Posted October 11, 2021 Many moons ago the ATC boyz thought that they had Ronnie Raygun by the cojones and they went on strike..the controller who lived next door at the time ended up running a muffler shop. A lot of laid off pilots got jobs with ATC in various roles like clearance delivery..ground control etc. that they could handle i.e. not approach to KORD for example. Those jobs and alert lines kept them going. It was a goat rope but they (the controllers) all got the bootaroo so best be careful. A lot of pilots headed off active duty? That a rumor or not? 1
TheNewGazmo Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/11/politics/texas-vaccine-mandate-greg-abbott/index.html
Standby Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, TheNewGazmo said: https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/11/politics/texas-vaccine-mandate-greg-abbott/index.html Constitutional carry AND prohibition on vaccine mandates? I wonder how the California transplants are going to handle this one…
Guest Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 4 hours ago, joe1234 said: And in a brilliant act of defiance against what he perceives to be a massive overreach of government by mandating vaccines, the governor of Texas engages in a massive overreach of government himself by banning private businesses from issuing mandates. You just have to appreciate the irony. >decreeing citizenry shall take an experimental injection that every day is being proven more and more to not work, is shilled by corrupt bureaucrats, politicians, and Big Pharmacy. is not tyranny >prohibiting entities within the sovereign state of Texas from forcing the citizenry to take an experimental injection is tyranny Did you read your oath of office backwards or something?
Guest Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 9 hours ago, Standby said: Constitutional carry AND prohibition on vaccine mandates? I wonder how the California transplants are going to handle this one… From what I’ve read the transplants from California to Texas are voting overwhelming “red” more than they are “blue”. Thank God.
tac airlifter Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 10:28 AM, FLEA said: I think because there is more to the approval than just the chemical compound that results. Everything from labeling to directions, packaging, manufacturing conditions, and supply transport are also evaluated. The FDA likely had no way to verify those conditions were identical in earlier Pfizer batches. There is a letter from Pfizer that actually details what the ONLY interchangeable batches with Cominarty are, I posted it earlier in this thread. Yea, then it sounds like Pfeizer shouldn’t be equivalent to Comirnaty and DOD did that to make this order fast & immediately enforceable. If all those variables matter to the FDA, maybe they matter?
glockenspiel Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 10:28 AM, FLEA said: I think because there is more to the approval than just the chemical compound that results. Everything from labeling to directions, packaging, manufacturing conditions, and supply transport are also evaluated. The FDA likely had no way to verify those conditions were identical in earlier Pfizer batches. There is a letter from Pfizer that actually details what the ONLY interchangeable batches with Cominarty are, I posted it earlier in this thread. Please post the letter again. I cannot find it. Thanks!
FLEA Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 See my post on 14 Sept in the other COVID thread.
pawnman Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 7 hours ago, joe1234 said: And in a brilliant act of defiance against what he perceives to be a massive overreach of government by mandating vaccines, the governor of Texas engages in a massive overreach of government himself by banning private businesses from issuing mandates. You just have to appreciate the irony. I wonder how all the folks cheering Abbott would feel if California banned companies from drug testing employees.
FLEA Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 37 minutes ago, pawnman said: I wonder how all the folks cheering Abbott would feel if California banned companies from drug testing employees. Depends. The relationship with government and business is a tough issue. On one hand my libertarian side says government shouldnt get involved. On the other, I don't want to go back to businesses lawfully being allowed to discriminate based on race/other factors, just because it's the business owners right. Personally, I could care less if drug testing was banned because I could care less if people do drugs. But none of these are apples to apples comparison. Big picture, my opinion, SWA has the right to mandate the vaccine if that's what their board wants. But the unions absolutely have a right to strike and leave SWA on its ass in the middle of a labor shortage as well. SWA needs to figure out how to balance that. 2
Prozac Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 44 minutes ago, FLEA said: Depends. The relationship with government and business is a tough issue. On one hand my libertarian side says government shouldnt get involved. On the other, I don't want to go back to businesses lawfully being allowed to discriminate based on race/other factors, just because it's the business owners right. Personally, I could care less if drug testing was banned because I could care less if people do drugs. But none of these are apples to apples comparison. Big picture, my opinion, SWA has the right to mandate the vaccine if that's what their board wants. But the unions absolutely have a right to strike and leave SWA on its ass in the middle of a labor shortage as well. SWA needs to figure out how to balance that. Way to twist yourself around this one. First you equate business’ vaccine mandates to racial discrimination? Sorry. Not even close. Offensive to those groups who really have been discriminated against. Second, you say you could care less whether people do drugs. Utter bullshit. I bet you’d care a lot if some meth addled truck driver mowed down somebody you loved. Third, you say SWAPA should be allowed to strike based on SWA’s mandate which makes me wonder if you’ve ever heard of the RLA or have the slightest clue how airline union negotiations work.
FLEA Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, Prozac said: Way to twist yourself around this one. First you equate business’ vaccine mandates to racial discrimination? Sorry. Not even close. Offensive to those groups who really have been discriminated against. Second, you say you could care less whether people do drugs. Utter bullshit. I bet you’d care a lot if some meth addled truck driver mowed down somebody you loved. Third, you say SWAPA should be allowed to strike based on SWA’s mandate which makes me wonder if you’ve ever heard of the RLA or have the slightest clue how airline union negotiations work. I think I confused you with my answer. To be clear, I dont think Abbot should have made a mandate. My whole point is, keep shit at the lowest level and keep the government out. It's a corporate/labor dispute like anything else. Unless there is criminal conduct, just let it go. 1
Prozac Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, FLEA said: I think I confused you with my answer. To be clear, I dont think Abbot should have made a mandate. My whole point is, keep shit at the lowest level and keep the government out. It's a corporate/labor dispute like anything else. Unless there is criminal conduct, just let it go. Thanks for the clarification. I think we mostly agree & I probably read a little too much into your earlier post. 🍻
arg Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 Got the notice from the company. Shot or fired. Not sure what I’m going to do yet. Leaning towards the J&J if I go that route. Don’t recall anyone here mentioning that they got the J&J. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app
Guest Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 6 hours ago, pawnman said: I wonder how all the folks cheering Abbott would feel if California banned companies from drug testing employees. Drug testing someone causes irreversible medical changes to the person’s body? 1 hour ago, arg said: Got the notice from the company. Shot or fired. Not sure what I’m going to do yet. Leaning towards the J&J if I go that route. Don’t recall anyone here mentioning that they got the J&J. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app You’re going to sell yourself out for a paycheck and take the clotshot?
tac airlifter Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, arg said: Got the notice from the company. Shot or fired. Not sure what I’m going to do yet. Leaning towards the J&J if I go that route. Don’t recall anyone here mentioning that they got the J&J. My wife & I both got it. It’s fine I guess. Felt a bit under the weather for a day then got over it, NBD. We both still got COVID afterwards so it’s totally bogus, but that’s par for the course on this issue. If you’re just looking to check the box, J&J does it faster than the others. 1 1 1
TheNewGazmo Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, tac airlifter said: My wife & I both got it. It’s fine I guess. Felt a bit under the weather for a day then got over it, NBD. We both still got COVID afterwards so it’s totally bogus, but that’s par for the course on this issue. If you’re just looking to check the box, J&J does it faster than the others. And it's not mRNA if you're concerned about "gene therapy".
brabus Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 They all seem about equal on fuckery, so might as well get the single dose and be done with it, if you’re going to do it. 1
Guest Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, TheNewGazmo said: And it's not mRNA if you're concerned about "gene therapy". I think the Janssen is still a genetic therapy drug because it uses (including, but not limited to) DNA instead of mRNA. Something like that. Still horrifying.
CaptainMorgan Posted October 12, 2021 Posted October 12, 2021 Got the notice from the company. Shot or fired. Not sure what I’m going to do yet. Leaning towards the J&J if I go that route. Don’t recall anyone here mentioning that they got the J&J. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile appBarely noticeable side effects the day after for me. Might have been what I ate that day as far as I know. In addition to being only one shot, some studies have shown it’s the most effective for people who already had COVID, but there are so many conflicting studies that who knows anymore. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1
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