Lighten Up Francis!

[skibum]

Your hearing can get pretty bad before it affects your flight status. It's better for your VA benefits to just go with it.

[Smokin]

I've failed my hearing test the last three years in a row.  Each time the tech tells me "sir, you need to be back within 30 days to retest so we can reset your baseline."  But no one has mentioned it again when I never show back up...

Probably just a WOM, but I've talked to 3-4 guys that had the same thing, fell for the trick of actually going back, only to get 0% for hearing when they retire.  They think the reset baseline makes it look like they've had zero hearing loss.  Or maybe the VA hearing baseline is absolute and based on a retired artillery NCO.

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[slc]

15 hours ago, skibum said:

Your hearing can get pretty bad before it affects your flight status

Thanks, that's what I needed to hear

[HossHarris]

40 minutes ago, slc said:

Thanks, that's what I needed to hear

What?

[RASH]

I've failed my hearing test the last three years in a row.  Each time the tech tells me "sir, you need to be back within 30 days to retest so we can reset your baseline."  But no one has mentioned it again when I never show back up...
Probably just a WOM, but I've talked to 3-4 guys that had the same thing, fell for the trick of actually going back, only to get 0% for hearing when they retire.  They think the reset baseline makes it look like they've had zero hearing loss.  Or maybe the VA hearing baseline is absolute and based on a retired artillery NCO.

Retired almost 15 years ago, so take it for what it’s worth. 7 baseline adjustments over 20 years. Never off flight status for hearing. At my VA compensation physical, the audiologist stops my hearing test, opens the door and asks me “are you really not hearing the tones?” Reset/Regen, and 15 minutes later she asks “Has anyone ever told you you need hearing aids? You’re legally deaf in the higher frequencies”

I was still on flight status at the time. Don’t even think the AF is looking out for your interests. And claim EVERYTHING!


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[FourFans]

H3 hearing waiver here.  Yes.  You can have HORRIBLE hearing and still be on flight status.  The booth of pain is nothing more than a screener to see if you need to go to the real booth...which isn't painful at all.  The real one is preceded by a device clammed to your head (not BQZip's mom) that plays sonar sounds and maps what your hearing should be.  Then you sit in a real sound proof booth and you play the game again with high def speakers and not a headset, which tests the connections between brain and ear.  The device maps what your hearing should be.  The booth maps what your hearing is.  The only reason they need the booth is to make sure your brain is actually receiving the inputs the ear is sending.  

Bonus: If you have a competent audiologist, the high def speaker test will have a "repeat this word" test, which is the result of a 30 year speech pathology study examining how hearing degradation impacts speech degradation as we get older.  Basically what we hear turns into what we say, and it's very subtle.  But once you hear it, you can't unknow it.  BTW yes, at 40 years old I became a hearing aid recipient.

Interesting sidebar: After having personally gone through that audiology and speech pathology wringer, it is clear that our current president relies on lip reading, an ear piece, and is stone cold Boomer def.  The signs are easy to pick up once you know what to look for.  It sadly explains some of his gaffed responses...(that, and the outright lies...fo example his academic record...no hearing problem there)...definitely not an excuse, and frankly a reason he shouldn't be in office...but I digress.  God help us.

TLDR: You can have horrible hearing.  So long as you can still do your job (i.e. your D.O. signs of that you can still hear the RWR tones), you're good to go.  H3 waiver takes about 3-4 months to process.  If you lead turn it, you'll never leave flight status.

 

P.S. Tinnitus gets you 10%. Hearing loss gets you 0% (but they pay for your hearing aids every 3 years...supposedly)

Edited August 2, 2023 by FourFans

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[Biff_T]

On 8/1/2023 at 6:52 AM, HossHarris said:

What?

Hunh? Say again...

[slc]

6 hours ago, FourFans said:

H3 hearing waiver here.  Yes.  You can have HORRIBLE hearing and still be on flight status.  The booth of pain is nothing more than a screener to see if you need to go to the real booth...which isn't painful at all.  The real one is preceded by a device clammed to your head (not BQZip's mom) that plays sonar sounds and maps what your hearing should be.  Then you sit in a real sound proof booth and you play the game again with high def speakers and not a headset, which tests the connections between brain and ear.  The device maps what your hearing should be.  The booth maps what your hearing is.  The only reason they need the booth is to make sure your brain is actually receiving the inputs the ear is sending.  

Bonus: If you have a competent audiologist, the high def speaker test will have a "repeat this word" test, which is the result of a 30 year speech pathology study examining how hearing degradation impacts speech degradation as we get older.  Basically what we hear turns into what we say, and it's very subtle.  But once you hear it, you can't unknow it.  BTW yes, at 40 years old I became a hearing aid recipient.

Interesting sidebar: After having personally gone through that audiology and speech pathology wringer, it is clear that our current president relies on lip reading, an ear piece, and is stone cold Boomer def.  The signs are easy to pick up once you know what to look for.  It sadly explains some of his gaffed responses...(that, and the outright lies...fo example his academic record...no hearing problem there)...definitely not an excuse, and frankly a reason he shouldn't be in office...but I digress.  God help us.

TLDR: You can have horrible hearing.  So long as you can still do your job (i.e. your D.O. signs of that you can still hear the RWR tones), you're good to go.  H3 waiver takes about 3-4 months to process.  If you lead turn it, you'll never leave flight status.

 

P.S. Tinnitus gets you 10%. Hearing loss gets you 0% (but they pay for your hearing aids every 3 years...supposedly)

Excellent info, thanks for posting.

Was the "advanced" test done at Wright Pat?  Did you ever have your baseline reset before reaching H3?  

Solid info on the VA disability tip (Tinnitus vs. hearing loss claim)

[RASH]

 
P.S. Tinnitus gets you 10%. Hearing loss gets you 0% (but they pay for your hearing aids every 3 years...supposedly)

Can confirm. On my fourth pair…


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[gearhog]

LOL 

https://twitter.com/kanekoathegreat/status/1687208312218210306?s=46

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[HeloDude]

17 hours ago, gearhog said:

LOL 

https://twitter.com/kanekoathegreat/status/1687208312218210306?s=46

You just can make this stuff up…and the progressives tell us that they’re the smart ones lol.

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23 hours ago, gearhog said:

LOL 

https://twitter.com/kanekoathegreat/status/1687208312218210306?s=46

This guy and his knowledge.

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[Biff_T]

7 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

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[TreeA10]

12 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Fear, sarcasm, and ridicule is more than just a catch phrase. It's a valuable teaching technique!

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[Biff_T]

4 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Too bad she's wearing clothes lol.  

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