World War III Updates

[slc]

Looks like he was wounded in the drone video hence the decision to bring the building down on him....

[ClearedHot]

7 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

Did he have the hole in his head in that video? Did the drone finish him off? I'm confused.

You didn't watch the video...He was alive but badly wounded when the drone went in.  He weakly threw something at the drone so they backed up and a tank put a round into the room which ventilated his brain.

[Lord Ratner]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

You didn't watch the video...He was alive but badly wounded when the drone went in.  He weakly threw something at the drone so they backed up and a tank put a round into the room which ventilated his brain.

Okay gotcha, the video I saw cut off shortly after he threw the stick. I didn't realize they had released more footage. 

 

I do love the idea of using a thrown broomstick as justification to continue firing on the apartment. Fuck that guy. 

 

[fire4effect]

1 hour ago, ClearedHot said:

You didn't watch the video...He was alive but badly wounded when the drone went in.  He weakly threw something at the drone so they backed up and a tank put a round into the room which ventilated his brain.

I think there were a number of stills from the drone in the media that may have implied it was from a troops helmet cam. It had me confused at first.

On a side note, this shows again how drones of all sizes are fundamentally changing warfare as we know it.

[slc]

Looks like the IDF had shot off his right hand before he sat down in the chair as well....

[fire4effect]

2 hours ago, slc said:

Looks like the IDF had shot off his right hand before he sat down in the chair as well....

So, the next to last thing that went through his mind is how can I rub one last one out now?

Yes, my family says I'm warped.😲

[Lord Ratner]

3 hours ago, fire4effect said:

So, the next to last thing that went through his mind is how can I rub one last one out now?

Yes, my family says I'm warped.😲

Only rookies 'bate with their dominant hand.

[ClearedHot]

 

[StoleIt]

Tit for tat.

 

[fire4effect]

On 10/19/2024 at 1:14 PM, StoleIt said:

Tit for tat.

 

Makes you wonder just how much they're willing to poke the bear. 

This whole thing could go sideways on a regional level really quick. 

[FourFans]

Peter Zeihan forecasts that Israel is going to smack Iran's oil production and distribution, which could spark Iran to ultimately push on Saudi.   I'm not putting money on anything, but that's an interesting prediction.

[uhhello]

1 hour ago, FourFans said:

Peter Zeihan forecasts that Israel is going to smack Iran's oil production and distribution, which could spark Iran to ultimately push on Saudi.   I'm not putting money on anything, but that's an interesting prediction.

Iran on Saudi Arabia with no outside interference is one I'd like to see  🙂 In a vacuum at least  

[Clayton Bigsby]

10 hours ago, uhhello said:

Iran on Saudi Arabia with no outside interference is one I'd like to see  🙂 In a vacuum at least  

Cripple fight?

[Lord Ratner]

Marco voices interviewed a guy named Anas recently who goes over why Israel is probably not going to hit Iran's oil. It's an interesting conversation. 

 

Lots of support needed from other countries to make a meaningful dent in Iran's oil capacity. 

 

I suspect they will target people. Israel has been on a roll cutting heads off snakes.

[ClearedHot]

7 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

Marco voices interviewed a guy named Anas recently who goes over why Israel is probably not going to hit Iran's oil. It's an interesting conversation. 

 

Lots of support needed from other countries to make a meaningful dent in Iran's oil capacity. 

 

I suspect they will target people. Israel has been on a roll cutting heads off snakes.

Who would they hit? 

While Israel has used the current conflict to go after some high level folks in Hamas and Hezzbolah, going after Ali Khamenei is a whole other level that could make the conflict go high order.  The Biden administration is already holding Israel back when it comes to striking the nuclear facilities, I doubt they would clear them to go after top Iranian leadership.  However, if they pull the string and show direct help (aside from the obvious funding), from Iran to Hezzbolah on the drone assassination attempt on Netanyahu it might be a different story.  Interestingly Israel's verbal response - Netanyahu said "Hezbollah would pay a "heavy price" for launching a drone targeting his house...zero mentions of Iranian assistance.

I think (and hope), the response will be measured, military facilities/capabilities and some oil production.

I think I've mentioned it before but for those looking for a better understanding of the Iranians and their thinking, I highly recommend the book "The Persian Puzzle."  While there is a rarely a single definitive book that provides a complete view of a country or situation, this book does a great job of walking recent history to gain a some perspective on how Iranian thinking has been shaped by constant tension with the U.S. starting with the fall of the shah and the seizure of the American embassy in Tehran in 1979.

[ClearedHot]

Israel just took out the projected new leader of Hezbollah...they are on a run!

[Smokin]

Didn't Israel say they wouldn't hit Iranian oil?  My bet is they hit something in the logistics train that decreases their ability to sell oil, but not hit refineries and such themselves.  Maybe shipyards, docks, etc.

[fire4effect]

On 10/22/2024 at 9:50 AM, FourFans said:

Peter Zeihan forecasts that Israel is going to smack Iran's oil production and distribution, which could spark Iran to ultimately push on Saudi.   I'm not putting money on anything, but that's an interesting prediction.

 

23 hours ago, uhhello said:

Iran on Saudi Arabia with no outside interference is one I'd like to see  🙂 In a vacuum at least  

From an economic perspective Saudi would make bank with a spike in oil prices as long as they could still ship oil. 

On a somewhat related note, a fair number on this forum make their money in the Part 121 transportation industry so a lot of economic skin in the game to go around.

One way the US could be sucked into this would be the Iranian Navy trying to cut off the Strait of Hormuz and given Israel isn't known as a naval power that doesn't leave a lot of options to counter outside the US. Not that I have a problem with turning the Iranian Fleet into multiple artificial reefs that they have no real way to replace in a timely manner. No way they could really keep up in a sustained conflict.

Final question. Doesn't China get most of its oil from Iran? Interesting how they might react to this trainwreck.

If this happens, I don't see it before November 6.

[SurelySerious]

From an economic perspective Saudi would make bank with a spike in oil prices as long as they could still ship oil. 
On a somewhat related note, a fair number on this forum make their money in the Part 121 transportation industry so a lot of economic skin in the game to go around.
One way the US could be sucked into this would be the Iranian Navy trying to cut off the Strait of Hormuz and given Israel isn't known as a naval power that doesn't leave a lot of options to counter outside the US. Not that I have a problem with turning the Iranian Fleet into multiple artificial reefs that they have no real way to replace in a timely manner. No way they could really keep up in a sustained conflict.
Final question. Doesn't China get most of its oil from Iran? Interesting how they might react to this trainwreck.
If this happens, I don't see it before November 6.

And countering Iran through a couple mile wide straight with the age of covert fast attack suicide boats and drones…that’s going to be fun using billion dollar warships.

[Lawman]

And countering Iran through a couple mile wide straight with the age of covert fast attack suicide boats and drones…that’s going to be fun using billion dollar warships.

At this point nobody except the Iranians need to worry about the restriction of that straight. Saudi can pipe the oil out the other way. The only reason they don’t is the price per barrel is still low enough to justify shipping it via boat from the old oil ports. Things get hot, Iran effectively isolates its self.


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[busdriver]

1 hour ago, Lawman said:

 Things get hot, Iran effectively isolates its self.

And China.  The pipelined oil goes the other way.

[ClearedHot]

Israel knows how to drop a building.  As per usual they've "tinkered" with some our toys to make them better...or purpose suited for their missions.

 

[Swizzle]

3 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Israel knows how to drop a building.  As per usual they've "tinkered" with some our toys to make them better...or purpose suited for their missions.

 

And it fell spectacularly in-place, like a professionally dropped, old Vegas casino. Might have even had a nearby drone-show beforehand too!

[ClearedHot]

3 hours ago, Swizzle said:

And it fell spectacularly in-place, like a professionally dropped, old Vegas casino. Might have even had a nearby drone-show beforehand too!

 

[gearhog]

Last time I saw Israel drop a building that cleanly was 9/11.