uhhello Posted October 11 Posted October 11 9 minutes ago, GrndPndr said: I can think of a couple of reasons. It should be painfully obvious for any base with high value assets,
Desayuno Posted October 15 Posted October 15 Random but why hasn’t the USAF built many underground hangars like our colleagues in the desert?
brabus Posted October 15 Posted October 15 10 hours ago, Desayuno said: Random but why hasn’t the USAF built many underground hangars like our colleagues in the desert? Because we prioritized money on the below. At least 3 flying at any one time IVO Chinese territory, mostly undetectable across multiple spectrums. Most Chinese reports of UAPs are this or the F-35s associated with it. Bottom line, have to prioritize funds somewhere. FAFO Xi… 1
frog Posted October 15 Posted October 15 On 10/11/2024 at 11:57 PM, HeyEng said: The War Zone is reporting that Langley is installing anti-drone netting around the enclosures for the F-22 to help combat drone intrusions at and around the base. In addition to being a physical barrier, the netting is assumed to help protect the aircraft from electro-optical snooping as well. It’s still curious as to why Langley is the base being targeted for these drone swarms, maybe its proximity to the ocean? I think you answered your own question?
McJay Pilot Posted October 15 Posted October 15 3 hours ago, brabus said: Because we prioritized money on the below. At least 3 flying at any one time IVO Chinese territory, mostly undetectable across multiple spectrums. Most Chinese reports of UAPs are this or the F-35s associated with it. Bottom line, have to prioritize funds somewhere. FAFO Xi… Dude! OPSEC! 1
M2 Posted October 15 Posted October 15 The WSJ take on the situation, with the added bonus of a humorous story on the "worst spy ever," Fengyun Shi! Mystery Drones Swarmed a U.S. Military Base for 17 Days. The Pentagon Is Stumped. U.S. officials don’t know who is behind the drones that have flown unhindered over sensitive national-security sites—or how to stop them https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/drones-military-pentagon-defense-331871f4 To view the article with pictures, go to the Air Force MWR Libraries website (https://daf.dodmwrlibraries.org/) and log in using your DoD ID number (i.e., EDIPI) and DOB. Once confirmed, under ‘Find a Resource’ search for the Wall Street Journal. Once at that publication’s website, use the URL above. 1 1 1
uhhello Posted October 15 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, M2 said: The WSJ take on the situation, with the added bonus of a humorous story on the "worst spy ever," Fengyun Shi! Mystery Drones Swarmed a U.S. Military Base for 17 Days. The Pentagon Is Stumped. U.S. officials don’t know who is behind the drones that have flown unhindered over sensitive national-security sites—or how to stop them https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/drones-military-pentagon-defense-331871f4 To view the article with pictures, go to the Air Force MWR Libraries website (https://daf.dodmwrlibraries.org/) and log in using your DoD ID number (i.e., EDIPI) and DOB. Once confirmed, under ‘Find a Resource’ search for the Wall Street Journal. Once at that publication’s website, use the URL above. Great resource I didn't know was out there
HeyEng Posted October 15 Author Posted October 15 4 hours ago, frog said: I think you answered your own question? What I meant is why is Langley targeted at the exclusion of other bases? Is it because Langley is near the water and these drones (which witnesses are saying are as large as cars) are operating off of ships and more inland bases are out of reach or launching and recovering these drones over land are not practical without getting caught? If so I would think you would see many Naval installations targeted as well. And for that matter why stop at installing anti-drone netting at just Langley? I would think that any base that has F-22, F-35, B-2, etc. should have anti-drone protection installed.
uhhello Posted October 16 Posted October 16 The military/govt should be shitting their pants at the threat of drones. I'm not saying anything groundbreaking here or advertising a capability that isn't being used a thousand times a day in the current conflict, but $100k and ten dudes spread out stateside would bring our home station AF to its knees. 1
brabus Posted October 16 Posted October 16 5 hours ago, HeyEng said: What I meant is why is Langley targeted at the exclusion of other bases? Who said they were the only ones? The media and some blogging fanboys? Adversary surveillance is a problem all over the place.
raimius Posted October 16 Posted October 16 17 hours ago, uhhello said: The military/govt should be shitting their pants at the threat of drones. I'm not saying anything groundbreaking here or advertising a capability that isn't being used a thousand times a day in the current conflict, but $100k and ten dudes spread out stateside would bring our home station AF to its knees. Are we not doing phrasing anymore? 2
Lawman Posted October 16 Posted October 16 The military/govt should be shitting their pants at the threat of drones. I'm not saying anything groundbreaking here or advertising a capability that isn't being used a thousand times a day in the current conflict, but $100k and ten dudes spread out stateside would bring our home station AF to its knees. We’ve got a team of young troopers whose sole job is acting as a red force with home made drones and going around showing people the vulnerabilities. They built this stuff in a basement with YouTube training, a 600 dollar 3D printer, and about 5k of budget. Now they’re flying around FPVs with droppers on them to drop little 3D printed chalk bombs. If you haven’t had the opportunity go out near one of these seagull sized little bastards when they are flying. You can’t see them beyond about 300 feet unless they are against naked sky, and at the speed they move you notice it just in time to look up at what would be death. It’s a pretty amazing and terrifying experience. The stuff DGI makes is even scarier. 2 minutes of playing with it and I was flying around 2-3 km away from where I was across corn fields at 5 feet doing 50-60mph with almost no effort and full HD video. The drone i was using is 600 bucks off the shelf. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
HeyEng Posted October 17 Author Posted October 17 22 hours ago, brabus said: Who said they were the only ones? The media and some blogging fanboys? Adversary surveillance is a problem all over the place. Wait, there’s been other large scale drone swarms over bases lasting over two weeks that required NASA surveillance aircraft to track them?
brabus Posted October 17 Posted October 17 Do you think you’re going to get a specific answer here? 1 1
HeyEng Posted October 20 Author Posted October 20 (edited) On 10/16/2024 at 10:04 PM, brabus said: Do you think you’re going to get a specific answer here? Actually I have found some good information on News Nation. In additional to Langley, there were several Navy bases near the area that were targeted as well. Despite the size of the drones they flew in a precise synchronized formation (some sort of data link synthetic radar?) Some appeared to be quadcopter style drones while others were fixed wing and probably launched off a ship out at sea. Edited October 20 by HeyEng
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