2025 ACTIVE DUTY UFT BOARD

[bomb1921]

1 hour ago, QUAG said:

Laughlin will be the last base to go to UPT3.0. They will start this spring. 
 

with that in mind, all of us will be on the new syllabus. 
 

4.5 months of IPT (Phoenix, Atlanta, Dallas, or Pensacola)

Shortened T-6 Syllabus

Track to 38’s (normal 38 syllabus)

Track direct to Heavy FTU 

 

we are the AF’s guinea Pigs for the new UPT. 
 

 

the last 3 years, dates were released 3-4 weeks after notification. For us, that should be this week or next! 

Do you know if they're still doing IFT for people doing the UPT 3.0 with IPT?

[coppy]

19 minutes ago, bomb1921 said:

Do you know if they're still doing IFT for people doing the UPT 3.0 with IPT?

Pretty sure IPT replaces IFT in all cases, since you get several ratings from it including a PPL.

[Griffith96]

Anyone know if you're required to do the private and instrument portion of IPT if you already have those certs/ratings?

[QUAG]

3 minutes ago, Griffith96 said:

Anyone know if you're required to do the private and instrument portion of IPT if you already have those certs/ratings?

You could have your ATP and would still be required to attend. They are sending everyone no matter what you have. I’m going to enjoy the free money TDY learning things I’ve already done. 

[coppy]

1 hour ago, QUAG said:

Laughlin will be the last base to go to UPT3.0. They will start this spring. 
 

with that in mind, all of us will be on the new syllabus. 
 

4.5 months of IPT (Phoenix, Atlanta, Dallas, or Pensacola)

Shortened T-6 Syllabus

Track to 38’s (normal 38 syllabus)

Track direct to Heavy FTU 

 

we are the AF’s guinea Pigs for the new UPT. 
 

 

the last 3 years, dates were released 3-4 weeks after notification. For us, that should be this week or next! 

Where did you find IPT locations? I only found the TX and AZ spots. Also, where did you hear we would all be IPT?

[QUAG]

2 minutes ago, coppy said:

Where did you find IPT locations? I only found the TX and AZ spots. Also, where did you hear we would all be IPT?

One of my buddies I commissioned with is the T flight commander at Columbus. He passed me all the info about the locations. 
 

I was at Laughlin this weekend talking to a couple guys at the 47th WG, they told me the plan for Laughlin to be the last to start this spring. They confirmed all students will be required to go. It’s to compensate for the shortened T-6 syllabus. 

[coppy]

1 minute ago, QUAG said:

One of my buddies I commissioned with is the T flight commander at Columbus. He passed me all the info about the locations. 
 

I was at Laughlin this weekend talking to a couple guys at the 47th WG, they told me the plan for Laughlin to be the last to start this spring. They confirmed all students will be required to go. It’s to compensate for the shortened T-6 syllabus. 

Gotcha, only reason I asked is because my buddy at Vance didn't act like they were switching anytime soon, but he could definitely be wrong, he's about to head to FTU.

[Griffith96]

Way above my pay grade, but I honestly don't think the reduction in turbine time in a traditional military environment is a great idea. Flying a cessna is a great way to become familiar with the concepts of aviation, but significantly reducing T6 flight time seems like a bad idea. 

[FLMan13]

There's a really interesting article from last month published by AETC going into the new plans for IPT and UPT 3.0. Going into UPT with a multi-engine rating surely can't hurt, but time will tell as they get through the first few test groups.

U.S. Air Force partners with academia, industry to test future pilot production model > Air Education and Training Command > Article Display

 

[BeerForMyHorses]

8 hours ago, Griffith96 said:

Way above my pay grade, but I honestly don't think the reduction in turbine time in a traditional military environment is a great idea. Flying a cessna is a great way to become familiar with the concepts of aviation, but significantly reducing T6 flight time seems like a bad idea. 

Completely agree. Also, IPT doesn't emphasize emergency procedures. Not to mention, UPT took out the T-1 syllabus. So students going T-6 direct to heavies will show up to FTU with limited exposure to how we do things in military aviation. Time will tell...

8 hours ago, QUAG said:

One of my buddies I commissioned with is the T flight commander at Columbus. He passed me all the info about the locations. 
 

I was at Laughlin this weekend talking to a couple guys at the 47th WG, they told me the plan for Laughlin to be the last to start this spring. They confirmed all students will be required to go. It’s to compensate for the shortened T-6 syllabus. 

Vance isn't doing IPT and at this moment there's been no words passed that they will. 

On 2/9/2025 at 1:12 AM, jorfy said:

Anyone have any recent drops for Vance/Columbus? It would be nice to see the T-38/T-1 sim track ratios for the other bases as well

I don't know the class number but this was last week at Vance:

T-1 class: even split of 17s and 135s, couple of C-130Hs for the guardies/reservists,1 or 2 C-130Js and 1 C-146

T-38 class: T-38 FAIP, T-6 FAIP, F-16, 2x F-35s, HC-130. A more encouraging drop for those hoping for fighters. We were told fighter slots are becoming increasingly rare

Edited February 12 by BeerForMyHorses

[Otter]

Anyone have gouge on RIPs getting cut? I know the email said end of February but am trying to get a realistic timeline - currently slated to deploy in April but obviously UFT takes priority.

Also, with IPT coming on board are we expecting to be on TDY from our current station or to PCS to our UPT base and then TDY out from there? Wondering if it's similar to the old URT that had us PCS to our gaining squadron and then TDY out for all of our training. If it is I'm betting it's not going to save the Air Force any money - that per diem and mileage expense adds up.

 

[bpep887]

12 minutes ago, Otter said:

Anyone have gouge on RIPs getting cut? I know the email said end of February but am trying to get a realistic timeline - currently slated to deploy in April but obviously UFT takes priority.

Also, with IPT coming on board are we expecting to be on TDY from our current station or to PCS to our UPT base and then TDY out from there? Wondering if it's similar to the old URT that had us PCS to our gaining squadron and then TDY out for all of our training. If it is I'm betting it's not going to save the Air Force any money - that per diem and mileage expense adds up.

 

I'm in a similar situation, I'm deploying in 2 weeks. My CC contacted the board folks to deconflict my class dates with the deployment. I'm not sure if they moved my class dates because of it or if they were already this late, but he told me I'll be heading out sometime mid/late October. This conversation was a couple weeks ago, but I'm quite sure I remember him saying IPT is after PCSing. He wasn't told which base I'm going to though. But if you haven't already, you should let them know you're going to deploy so you don't have an issue with your class dates

[coppy]

41 minutes ago, bpep887 said:

I'm in a similar situation, I'm deploying in 2 weeks. My CC contacted the board folks to deconflict my class dates with the deployment. I'm not sure if they moved my class dates because of it or if they were already this late, but he told me I'll be heading out sometime mid/late October. This conversation was a couple weeks ago, but I'm quite sure I remember him saying IPT is after PCSing. He wasn't told which base I'm going to though. But if you haven't already, you should let them know you're going to deploy so you don't have an issue with your class dates

I asked the board awhile back about IPT. It is a PCS and then you go TDY.

[QUAG]

1 hour ago, Otter said:

Anyone have gouge on RIPs getting cut? I know the email said end of February but am trying to get a realistic timeline - currently slated to deploy in April but obviously UFT takes priority.

Also, with IPT coming on board are we expecting to be on TDY from our current station or to PCS to our UPT base and then TDY out from there? Wondering if it's similar to the old URT that had us PCS to our gaining squadron and then TDY out for all of our training. If it is I'm betting it's not going to save the Air Force any money - that per diem and mileage expense adds up.

 

IPT is a TDY after you PCS to your UPT base. You’ll likely be casual for a little before going TDY. 
 

I was tracking training dates NLT 31 March per the notification email. 
 

I’ve been religiously checking my CDB to see if they have input dates. I’m not expecting them to be early than their projected date. I’m hopeful however. 

[jorfy]

Any UPT/URT folks get their MFS dates yet?

[dcolt21]

On 2/11/2025 at 5:51 PM, Griffith96 said:

Way above my pay grade, but I honestly don't think the reduction in turbine time in a traditional military environment is a great idea. Flying a cessna is a great way to become familiar with the concepts of aviation, but significantly reducing T6 flight time seems like a bad idea. 

I had the same thoughts going through UCT. I didn't feel like I had much tactical knowledge prior to the FTU and even less before going to ops. UFT is really designed to teach you how to not crash a jet and test your task management based on the 214 and 202. The FTU teaches you how to not kill yourself in your MDS while operating in the military environment.  Ops teaches you how to be the tactical expert. You'll have plenty of time as the FNG to get into the 3-1, 3-3, 202v3, and all other pubs

Hope this helps with some perspective. 

[QUAG]

Got my dates! 
 

Columbus!

RNLTD 2 June

IPT 8-4-2025

[bpep887]

3 minutes ago, QUAG said:

Got my dates! 
 

Columbus!

RNLTD 2 June

IPT 8-4-2025

Congrats! Did you find your dates on vmpf or somewhere else?

[FLMan13]

3 minutes ago, QUAG said:

Got my dates! 
 

Columbus!

RNLTD 2 June

IPT 8-4-2025

Did that populate in you CDB or did you get orders?

[QUAG]

1 minute ago, FLMan13 said:

Did that populate in you CDB or did you get orders?

CDB shows my IPT. 
 

CC dug and found out my RNLTD and base assignment. 

[FLMan13]

2 minutes ago, QUAG said:

CDB shows my IPT. 
 

CC dug and found out my RNLTD and base assignment. 

Where did your CC find it? Asking for a friend….

[bomb1921]

38 minutes ago, FLMan13 said:

Where did your CC find it? Asking for a friend….

My buddy told me if you apply for an EFMP thru vMPF, it’ll show you what assignment you are currently projected. So once you see the projected training on your CDB you can maybe use that to figure out base and RNLTD.

[QUAG]

One thing that could have contributed to getting my dates so soon was being MFS complete. 
 

I populated on the losing roster. 

[Otter]

14 hours ago, QUAG said:

One thing that could have contributed to getting my dates so soon was being MFS complete. 

I'm also MFS complete, nothing populated in my CDB. 

This wait is worse than waiting for the results.