Trump's Cabinet

[FourFans]

On 1/16/2025 at 7:32 PM, HeloDude said:

As for Bush, Romney, and McCain…definitely not any of my favorites, and I believe politically, Trump is better than all 3.  

I'll bite.   Why is he better?

[HeloDude]

14 minutes ago, FourFans said:

I'll bite.   Why is he better?

Policies.  Here’s just a few.

Bush—Iraq War and Patriot Act, amongst others.

Romney—weak on 2A.  Weak on immigration.  Voted to confirm Jackson to SCOTUS.  Voted for massive Ukraine spending.  Voted to remove Trump after the nonsense first impeachment. 

McCain—war hawk.  Weak on immigration.  Voted against repealing the ACA.  
 

All three were part of the old school/elitist wing of the GOP.

[herkbum]

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[Ebony zer]

Trump nominated Matthew Lohmier to be the undersecretary of the Air Force. We’ve all sat around as CGOs and FGOs and talked about what we would do if we were in charge. Now we’ll get to see what that looks like with a retired major as the SECDEF and a former Lt Col as #2 in the Air Force. 

[BashiChuni]

Lohmier is the real deal, a fantastic leader, and will be GREAT in this position.

 

[Vetter]

A FAIP as SECAF.  Dear God…

[Lord Ratner]

7 hours ago, Vetter said:

A FAIP as SECAF.  Dear God…

Hook 'em All!! ☠️🏴‍☠️

[skybert]

9 hours ago, Vetter said:

A FAIP as SECAF.  Dear God…

And a member of the E4 mafia as vice president, I love it!

[Sua Sponte]

Ramswammy pulling a negative Scaramucci departing before a fake department even begins under a new administration.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/vivek-ramaswamy-expected-to-depart-doge/

[Day Man]

cue trump's disparaging remarks about him in 3,2...

[HeloDude]

2 hours ago, Day Man said:

cue trump's disparaging remarks about him in 3,2...

You just couldn’t help yourself, could you?

https://newrepublic.com/post/190275/donald-trump-vivek-ramaswamy-senator

[Sua Sponte]

12 hours ago, HeloDude said:

You just couldn’t help yourself, could you?

https://newrepublic.com/post/190275/donald-trump-vivek-ramaswamy-senator

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/2025/01/17/mike-dewine-to-pick-jon-husted-to-fill-jd-vances-ohio-senate-seat/77483035007/

[HeloDude]

55 minutes ago, Sua Sponte said:

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/politics/2025/01/17/mike-dewine-to-pick-jon-husted-to-fill-jd-vances-ohio-senate-seat/77483035007/

Yep, Vivek is going to run for Ohio governor.  And if Trump was good with Vivek being Senator then I’m sure Trump will be good with being Governor…unlike Day Man said.

[disgruntledemployee]

What's the over/under on Trump firing his first Cabinet position?  I'm going to set it at 6 months from their confirmation. 

What's the over/under on a Trump nominee departing office on their own?  I'll set it at 6.9 months.

Turnover happens, but it seemed like it happened a whole lot more with Donno T.

[Smokin]

The implication is that turnover is a bad thing.  He has to hire people for a job they've never done before.  Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don't.  Look at the rate of senior commanders fired in WWII and how well it worked out in the long run.

[disgruntledemployee]

5 hours ago, Smokin said:

The implication is that turnover is a bad thing.  He has to hire people for a job they've never done before.  Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don't.  Look at the rate of senior commanders fired in WWII and how well it worked out in the long run.

So you're equating working for Trump as going into battle in a world war?  Any other defending comments?

The implication is that Trump fired more Cabinet than his predecessors in modern times.  I'm sure someone can math it cause I'm lazy, but it was a lot.  So I'm going to set some odds.

[Smokin]

1 minute ago, disgruntledemployee said:

So you're equating working for Trump as going into battle in a world war?  Any other defending comments?

The implication is that Trump fired more Cabinet than his predecessors in modern times.  I'm sure someone can math it cause I'm lazy, but it was a lot.  So I'm going to set some odds.

I equated nothing.  I used WWII leadership as an example of how hard it is to hire people for jobs none of the applicants have done and that firing bad leaders may clear the path for good ones.  That does not imply that war and working for Trump are the same.  If you inferred that, then that speaks more to your presuppositions than my statement.

[disgruntledemployee]

2 minutes ago, Smokin said:

I equated nothing.  I used WWII leadership as an example of how hard it is to hire people for jobs none of the applicants have done and that firing bad leaders may clear the path for good ones.  That does not imply that war and working for Trump are the same.  If you inferred that, then that speaks more to your presuppositions than my statement.

Quibbling

[Day Man]

6 hours ago, Smokin said:

The implication is that turnover is a bad thing.  He has to hire people for a job they've never done before.  Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don't.  Look at the rate of senior commanders fired in WWII and how well it worked out in the long run.

funny you mention WWII...

[Smokin]

5 minutes ago, disgruntledemployee said:

Quibbling

Says every FAIP that was wrong but doesn't want to admit it...

[dream big]

13 minutes ago, Day Man said:

funny you mention WWII...

Elon Musk is a Nazi? I’ve seen this floating around our disgruntled leftist friends. I can see the left hasn’t learned anything from the November 2024 beating. Taking photos out of context to insinuate your opponents are Nazis is what drove millions of people away from the Democratic Party. 

[disgruntledemployee]

7 minutes ago, Smokin said:

Says every FAIP that was wrong but doesn't want to admit it...

I was not a FAIP, but maybe you were/are. 

We can pick this back up after the first firing and you can compare it to the firing of Patton, especially if there is a slap involved.

Beers!

[HeloDude]

5 minutes ago, disgruntledemployee said:

I was not a FAIP, but maybe you were/are. 

We can pick this back up after the first firing and you can compare it to the firing of Patton, especially if there is a slap involved.

Beers!

What exactly do you have against people being fired if the boss doesn’t think they’re up to the task?

[disgruntledemployee]

4 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

What exactly do you have against people being fired if the boss doesn’t think they’re up to the task?

Against the people?  Nothing.  My post well above was about Trump and how he had a penchant for firing his Cabinet, so I placed odds.

Now ND is making it interesting, so I'll chat later.

[Sua Sponte]

Speaking of being fired, I guess I might be.

https://chcoc.gov/sites/default/files/Guidance on Admin Leave and Probationary Periods 1-20-2025.pdf