November 26, 2024Nov 26 So enlightened and all knowing. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/military-officers-conscientious-objector-status-gaza https://www.laprogressive.com/defense/military-mindset Quote As an active duty service member, I have been told repeatedly that military strength is the only way to counteract the threats we face in the world. But once again we see violence, this time perpetrated by the Israeli government, only leads to death and destruction in an ever growing conflict. Hate begets hate. Quote In many ways, it’s thanks to the Air Force Academy that I currently have an anti-war stance. I was given the tools to examine my military service and foreign policy in a couple mundane, core classes: law and ethics, though my ethics course has stuck with me the most, ironically enough. I hated my ethics course because I thought most of it was redundant and self-explanatory: don’t do bad things! I couldn’t understand why people dedicated their lives to it. Edited November 26, 2024Nov 26 by uhhello
November 26, 2024Nov 26 Sounds good Joy, please take a trip to Gaza and let us know how it turns out!
November 26, 2024Nov 26 How "deep in the fight" is she as a grad student at GT?!? 🤬🤬🤬 https://sites.gatech.edu/cereal/people/joy-metzler/ I'm all for granting her wish, after she pays back the $416,000 her USAFA degree cost taxpayers plus the $57,600 worth of monthly stipends she got while at the Zoo, as well as whatever government money has been spent on her graduate degree! And if there was ever a good argument against beards in uniform, these clowns personify it!
November 26, 2024Nov 26 Ok, two different things.. tracking now. For the orphan from China learning engineering, I'm sure the good ol govt can establish an alternate civil service to reap the investment of said 2d Lt along with a loan balance should she not honor that alternate enlistment/commitment. As for the beards, we all know our idea for beards in the military is modeled after Ramius, right? He would have looked unwise and silly if he was clean shaven and asking for a Ping.
November 26, 2024Nov 26 This seems very simple. You want conscientious objector status? No. What's the next crisis?
November 26, 2024Nov 26 Author 26 minutes ago, disgruntledemployee said: Ok, two different things.. tracking now. For the orphan from China learning engineering, I'm sure the good ol govt can establish an alternate civil service to reap the investment of said 2d Lt along with a loan balance should she not honor that alternate enlistment/commitment. As for the beards, we all know our idea for beards in the military is modeled after Ramius, right? He would have looked unwise and silly if he was clean shaven and asking for a Ping. how many pings?
November 26, 2024Nov 26 Author 2 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said: This seems very simple. You want conscientious objector status? No. What's the next crisis? Yeah right. I'm guessing her request is approved with zero pushback. No payback or anything of the like. Thank you for your 'service' and here's a 100% disability rating as well due to the suffering you endured in your service.
November 26, 2024Nov 26 Let her go but give her a student loan for the education at the zoo, no veterans benefits. If you don’t want to serve because of your conscience fine but you can’t expect mercy on one hand and then no consequences on the other. Everything has a price.
November 26, 2024Nov 26 how many pings?https://www.pewpewtactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/One-Ping-Only-Hunt-For-Red-October.gif
November 26, 2024Nov 26 She had a change in heart during her education period. It happens. Cut bait and call it a day, you whiners. We waste FAR more money as a country on FAR more pits. Besides, would you want her on your wing? NO, OF COURSE NOT! Just let her go and thank her for her service. Next!
November 26, 2024Nov 26 3 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said: Ok, two different things.. tracking now. For the orphan from China learning engineering, I'm sure the good ol govt can establish an alternate civil service to reap the investment of said 2d Lt along with a loan balance should she not honor that alternate enlistment/commitment. As for the beards, we all know our idea for beards in the military is modeled after Ramius, right? He would have looked unwise and silly if he was clean shaven and asking for a Ping. Yeah, a Soviet submarine commander with a Scottish accent and a bad toupee!
November 26, 2024Nov 26 Mad because progressive libs are ruining the AF, Mad because progressive libs are leaving the AF.
November 26, 2024Nov 26 It seems primarily like her problem with serving is the Israel-Hamas conflcit... If your opposition to war is based on objections to a particular war, congratulations! You aren't a conscientious objector. Just another idiot who eats up Russian information warfare. Here's an idea - if you ever notice that the cause/belief/conspiracy you've recently decided to follow is something that would get an FSB officer promoted for spreading, reconsider your cause/belief/conspiracy. I'm also not impressed by anyone who sees what our enemies choose to do to those who cross them, and decides, "Yes, I will give those bad people a monopoly of violence against myself and my loved ones."
November 27, 2024Nov 27 She had a change in heart during her education period. It happens. Cut bait and call it a day, you whiners. We waste FAR more money as a country on FAR more pits. Besides, would you want her on your wing? NO, OF COURSE NOT! Just let her go and thank her for her service. Next!Concur but she’s gotta write a check for that education Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
November 28, 2024Nov 28 She effectively has grifted the taxpayer. I hope she gets out and incurs a half mil in debt - sucks to suck.
November 28, 2024Nov 28 Not sure it's a great way for pilots to get out early. I saw a dude wait until after dropping a viper to tell his flt/cc he was a conscientious objector, so they sent him to tankers. He's apparently fine with enabling everyone else to kill, as long as he's not the one doing it.
November 28, 2024Nov 28 “It’s not common knowledge,” said Metzler. “You don’t want to advertise to the people that are working for you that there’s a legal way for you to break your contract if you start to feel weird feelings.” ADSC? Commitment? Service? …I think I’m having “weird feelings”.
November 28, 2024Nov 28 I amend my previous statement, I’m willing to also offer her to serve the remainder of her commitment as a full time piss test monitor. All day, every day for the next 4-6 years. Or get out and incur 500M debt - her choice.
November 29, 2024Nov 29 Good riddance, let’s be honest, she’s not the type of officer you would want in your units anyways.
November 29, 2024Nov 29 12 hours ago, brabus said: I amend my previous statement, I’m willing to also offer her to serve the remainder of her commitment as a full time piss test monitor. All day, every day for the next 4-6 years. Or get out and incur 500M debt - her choice. 500M hog watcher is a crazy job offer. I'd be in for 1/4 of that as long as I never have to disclose what I do.
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