Palace Front Commitment for Officers

[Flyingfree]

I'm currently Active Duty and in talks with an ANG unit, but have a question I keep getting different answer to: What length of a commitment do I incur if I transition to the ANG via Palace Front as an officer? The ANG recruiter is telling me 4 years, but that sounds high considering the payback for Palace Chase is 3x your remaining ADSC and Palace Fronting (from my understanding) is just a transition to the ANG with no commitment since I've served out my ADSC contract. For some context, I'm in a flying position and would be filling a flying position in the same aircraft/crew position that I currently fly with no additional training required.

 

Thanks in advance for any help or insight.

[nunya]

A misinformed recruiter?  Say it ain't so! 

https://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/af_a1/publication/dafi36-3211/dafi36-3211.pdf

Palace Chase is only triple if you count the overlap. It's written as double in the regs.

Palace Front has no contract date. Ask the recruiter to show you the contract date paragraph for Palace Front.

 

edit: It sounds like the recruiter might be confused about initial enlistment contracts vs prior service. Either way, ask for a reg reference.

Edited December 10 by nunya

[VigilanteNav]

The ANG accession 4 year commitment is standard and is a separate commitment from any ADSC/Palace Chase/etc. I have accessed into the ANG 3 times and each time had to sign a 4 year contract (found one online as an example) regardless of what ADSC I had which was really none each time.  2 times were basically Palace Fronts and once was a move from the Reserves to the ANG.  Twice I left the ANG prior to the 4 year point but both times were to move elsewhere and continue serving (once to the Reserves and once onto AD (VLPAD)).  So, its possible to leave a unit prior to the 4 year commitment expiring but not sure if it would be approved just to discontinue service completely.  

https://www.101arw.ang.af.mil/Portals/1/documents/Statement of Agreement and Understanding - v7 dated Sep 2017.pdf?ver=2018-06-01-091745-607

I guess you can talk to the unit leadership about signing on with a shorter commitment and see what they say.  The issue will likely be that they would have to get that approved by the NGB (ANG A1 specifically).  Trust me that would not be a quick process (glacial movement would be a good description).  

IMHO, if you are dead set on not getting a 4 year commitment, I'd go to the Reserves where there should be no extra commitment over the ADSC/Palace Chase ones...unless, someone chimes in that they have actually experience in accessing into the ANG with a shorter than 4 year commitment.  

[nunya]

I had a <4 yr PC commitment and I didn't sign anything like a 4 year accession commitment when I went AD -> ANG.

[Chida]

One point is that a commitment if any in your case is not compulsory service. “Leadership” often forgets that the part-time reserve and guard is strictly voluntary. If you decide to quit drilling, they’ll transfer you to IRR or retired reserve if you have 20 good years. If you want to transfer to another unit they can’t stop the other unit from hiring you. 
BLAB: sign it and forget it

Edited December 13 by Chida