Clark Griswold Posted March 12 Posted March 12 46 minutes ago, CaptainMorgan said: Not going to happen. They didn’t order enough T-7s to put everyone thru it. When the T-6 is sunsetted, it will be IPT direct to FTU for the non-fighter/bomber dudes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah, that’s not a good plan. Not shooting the messenger just commenting on the situation.
hindsight2020 Posted March 15 Posted March 15 On 3/11/2025 at 10:50 PM, CaptainMorgan said: Not going to happen. They didn’t order enough T-7s to put everyone thru it. When the T-6 is sunsetted, it will be IPT direct to FTU for the non-fighter/bomber dudes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ^^^That's correct. All this hopium talk upthread is chaff. The IPT direct to T-7 is DOA, on both sides. The IPT side will fail for quality control reasons that are self-evident to those of us who have done the flight training thing on both sides of the military base fence. The T-7 side of that COA will fail for the reason you've highlighted already. And yes, the fallback will be mobility bounds direct to FTU. People will die in continuation training with increasing frequency, though it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to also see an uptick in intermediate pre-qual training losses. Plausible deniability will ensure no flag officer goes to prison over the programmatic decisions that caused them. So I guess my macro point in all this is, everybody take care of número uno... and I don't mean flight lead.
Clark Griswold Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Related item: Navy having T-45 problems https://www.twz.com/air/t-45-goshawk-navy-jet-trainer-fleet-grounded
Clark Griswold Posted March 15 Posted March 15 39 minutes ago, hindsight2020 said: The IPT side will fail for quality control reasons that are self-evident to those of us who have done the flight training thing on both sides of the military base fence. If IPT were done at a military base with direct oversight do you think the quality control could be maintained?
SurelySerious Posted March 15 Posted March 15 If IPT were done at a military base with direct oversight do you think the quality control could be maintained?Depends all on how the contract and syllabus are written, on site or off.
Clark Griswold Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, SurelySerious said: Depends all on how the contract and syllabus are written, on site or off. On site. I’m not one for excessive oversight but keeping them on a shortish leash might be helpful. Go pros, FDRs, quality/standardization checks with mil instructors, etc… solid pay for CFIIs for IPT, 75k to start, pass probation period, say 6 months, pay bumps up, second year guaranteed 100k+ for x number of student training hours flown, etc… This would be to off load some of a hypothetical phase 2 of my COA, intro mil flight training in a PC-21. Phase 3 then T-7s or T-54. If the AF won’t buy the -54, then a ME course in a light twin, type training course with some extra sims, a LOFT phase, call it good. Plane porn just because Edited March 15 by Clark Griswold 2
Clark Griswold Posted Friday at 10:23 PM Posted Friday at 10:23 PM (edited) Lock Mart and Pilatus working on PC-21 upgrades / 5th gen training focus https://aviationweek.com/defense/light-attack-advanced-training/pilatus-pursues-f-35-focused-pc-21-training-system-upgrade Change course AF: Basics in a quality GA platform, Skylane. Mil training in a PC-21. Track studs to T-7 or T-54. Don’t overthink this. Edited Friday at 10:23 PM by Clark Griswold 1 1
Clark Griswold Posted Saturday at 05:32 PM Posted Saturday at 05:32 PM (edited) Idea: So there’s a military pilot shortage not just with us but our Allies as well, we’re in a rough patch with them right now so why not try to mend relations a bit and solve a common problem we all face by opening another base(s) here in the states, buy the iron ourselves or lease to go VFR direct to a solution and get ourselves caught up in production while getting our Allies caught up too, particularly in military pilot training. We want them to do more on there own, this would be one way to get that started and solve a problem we have now too. RAF, RAAF, RCAF, etc… are facing military pilot training shortages too, starting another base like the ENJPPT program at Sheppard, this justifies the purchase of new/different iron to train, different iron if current suppliers have no extra delivery capacity, reinvigorates mil to mil links without a new overseas basing mission and gets the extra production needed. Plan on it being a 10 year project, long enough to have impact but a sunset date with a legal extension option available. Old bases / airports are available, CODELs at these bases would support the MILCON money, there are enough vendors of capable training aircraft to get tails quickly as the facilities, syllabuses and logistics are worked out so that you could start I bet in 6-9 months with at least the primary phase as the intermediate/advanced phases are being set up. Nations buying into this can go al a carte, send studs thru all 3 phases or just whatever they want, pay/support as you go… ARC support might be forthcoming, loads/bookings are getting lighter in the 121 world and a ARC/low seniority airline guy probably would look at a good 3-5 year tour with a solid bonus (50k a year)…bases that have been divested are not impinging on existing MOAs… Solve a problem, bring the team back together and set them and ourselves up for success in the likely tense years ahead… Edited yesterday at 12:24 AM by Clark Griswold 1
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