Delta Connector CRJ900 Crash Toronto

[Biff_T]

7 hours ago, brabus said:

Dibs

[BashiChuni]

statement from Delta:

 

Endeavor Air and Delta are correcting disinformation in social media containing false and misleading assertions about the flight crew of Endeavor Air 4819.

• Captain: Mesaba Airlines, a progenitor company of Endeavor Air, hired the captain in October 2007. He has served both as an active duty Captain and in pilot training and flight safety capacities. Assertions that he failed training events are false. Assertions that he failed to flow into a pilot position at Delta Air Lines due to training failures are also false.
• First Officer: Hired in January 2024 by Endeavor Air and completed training in April. She has been flying for Endeavor Air since that time. As with any airline pilot, her flight experience mandated minimum requirements set by U.S. Federal regulations. Assertions that she failed training events are false.

Both crew members are qualified and FAA certified for their positions.

 

https://onemileatatime.com/news/delta-pilots-crash/?fbclid=IwY2xjawIkwRRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHetAJcLXWJLq1ClJiNZPnRhp8Ed8SnguJeYIsBcrhSiB2Bhraqjz5Ub_Mg_aem_6bdpaimDpqFJavW5NroAJQ

[jonlbs]

19 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

a progenitor company of Endeavor Air

Those be some fancy @hindsight2020  words

[kaputt]

This is why American corporations going the DEI route was so poisonous. 
 

They planted the seeds for the general public to not trust who they are putting in the front of airplanes by openly stating they would prioritize immutable characteristics as part of their hiring practices. 
 

The crazy speculation and blow back you’re seeing on social media is a direct fault of their choices and actions in the post 2020 world. 
 

It will take a long time to reverse  the distrust; and it may never go away since so many out there still worship at the altar of DEI. 

[skybert]

On 2/20/2025 at 6:29 PM, Biff_T said:

Dibs

I…..am so proud of you

[BashiChuni]

23 hours ago, jonlbs said:

Those be some fancy @hindsight2020  words

Say his name three times to summon him!

[Splash95]

So the Captain joined a regional 18 years ago and is still there, though he purportedly did not fail Delta training? How often does that happen?

[jonlbs]

1 minute ago, Splash95 said:

So the Captain joined a regional 18 years ago and is still there, though he purportedly did not fail Delta training? How often does that happen?

Depends on the airline but it wasn't that uncommon in the Mormon air force. Seniority combined with instructor pay and some people cross that threshold of willing to go back to the bottom of the list. You get your fair share of "unique" people but most are good people who just didn't strike the gold mine of timing.

[Springer]

11 hours ago, Splash95 said:

So the Captain joined a regional 18 years ago and is still there, though he purportedly did not fail Delta training? How often does that happen?

I have a buddy that is a CA at Endeavor that join later in life after successful career in the computer business.  Has no desire to go to a major to make more $$$ and is content not to have to move.  Enjoys flying his RV on days off.  For some of us it is quality of life over the $$$. 

[SocialD]

12 hours ago, Splash95 said:

So the Captain joined a regional 18 years ago and is still there, though he purportedly did not fail Delta training? How often does that happen?

 

 

Sadly, many that were hired in mid-2000s, got stuck at the regionals and/or just got comfortable.  I think there was even a time where many though that some of the high time regional guys weren't get hired because they were viewed as "untrainable."  I'm not sure if there was anything to that or not though. 

 

I knew a handful from college who stayed at their regional because they were not commuting, flying day turns M-Th and the QOL was just too good to pass up.  Unfortunately for them, their regional shut down and now they're all at United and way junior than they could have been.  

[tac airlifter]

12 hours ago, jonlbs said:

Mormon Air Force

🤣

[hindsight2020]

4 hours ago, Springer said:

I have a buddy that is a CA at Endeavor that join later in life after successful career in the computer business.  Has no desire to go to a major to make more $$$ and is content not to have to move.  Enjoys flying his RV on days off.  For some of us it is quality of life over the $$$. 

yessir. I'm sponsoring my wife through NP school for similar end-game motivations. Schedules are more important to me than money; lord knows I've been taking a paycut for the last 10 years on account of that life preference/priority.

The reality is that, if it hadn't been for clown FEHB costs and the joke that is FERS (thanks CSRS boomers...) for dual-status people, in all honesty I should have become a career ART. CASS is the only remaining inducement, but that too is a temporary stage, once my aging parents pass in situ or agree to relocate closer to me (the former is unfortunately more likely tbh).

People always going on about regionals being a poor play because of "whipsaw and base closures". Sure, and and base displacements/no-hiring periods forcing multi-year transcons commutes (a real treat for family/marital longevity) aren't a thing at the majors/LCCs. Oh wait...

Yes, if 121 is your primary payer and you got or want a 30 year work horizon, yes majors make sense over FFD 121....but that's not everybody's circumstance/work horizon. Which is where I see people start talking past each other on said topic.

On the RV front, boi I kick myself everyday I didn't incur a 2-airplane cost pre2020 and snagged the RV; now inflation got me sidelined when the certified lawnmower kablewy inflight back in '23 lol.  username checks 🤣. I still hope to snag one during a wage ecessionary period, hopefully before AD retirement.