Fuel Burn Rates

[Guest ELan]

Just curious. What is the average burn rate for the aircraft you fly / flew. I realize that there are many factors that affect this...but I'm sure that every plane has an average wag that you use off the top of your head. For slick 130's 5000 lbs an hour for cruise seems to be the rule for E/H models.

For fighter types...cruise / burner...whatever you got. Transports...enroute....same with tankers. Curious on the 135 E/R models and the KC-10. Helos...bombers...T-6...whatever.... If something is grosely different fully loaded / empty....lets hear it.

We are a gas guzzling nation and I am curious to hear where the different airframes rank in the fuel burn category...

[ 07. November 2005, 22:42: Message edited by: Torch ]

[Bergman]

The mighty KC-135E burns around 12,000/hr average. IIRC, you're looking at about 9-10,000/hr for the R-model.

Oh yeah, and the R has 38% more available thrust (88,000 vs 64,000) and more reliable engines. Damn.

[ 07. November 2005, 22:48: Message edited by: Bergman ]

[Techsan]

C-21: Max fuel load = 6238 lbs.

Average fuel burn: 1400/hr.

A LOT, I know.

[Guest THE10MAN]

KC-10: MTOGW 590K = 20,000 pph; almost empty 250K = ~12,000 pph

T-6: 3-400 pph

Where are your troops, and may I go there and count them?

[C17Driver]

C-17: Max fuel w/ER (extended range) tanks: 245,000ish lbs ; w/o ER tanks: 180,000ish lbs

Average fuel burn: Most guys use some variation of 20,000 lbs the first hour and 15,000 each additional hour of flight.

The APU burns around 400#/hr

[ 07. November 2005, 22:59: Message edited by: C17Driver ]

[Guest Hoser]

The Srike Pig with CFT's: approx 23K. I've flown .7's doing BFM and I've also flown 2.2's skyhooking to a low-level followed by some CAS.

Throw 2 bags on and we have about 31K.

As for cruising, we use about 1K per 60 nm. That's with the drag of our CFT's, BRU's, both LANTIRN pods, etc.

Hoser

[ 07. November 2005, 23:06: Message edited by: Hoser ]

[Vetter]

T-38C...2700 lb/hr low level, 1800-2000 lb/hr just scootin around, and 1600 lb/hr if we sky hook. 4000# is a full tank.

[craino21]

UH-1H 600 lb/hr, 1400# total

[Ryder1587]

C-150 5-6 lb/hr...haha damn I need to upgrade

[Guest comanche]

Ryder unless your fuel weighs 1 lb a gallon, it is a little more. More like 30 lb/hr lol.

[ 08. November 2005, 02:15: Message edited by: comanche ]

[Ryder1587]

Haha dammit. Yeah, I'm going by gph.

[Buddy Spike]

7 gph @ 175ktas.

Not quite sure what the A-10 FMT burns, but it'd be in Kilowatt hours. ;)

[Guest SuperStallionIP]

CH-53E burns about 4200-4500 PPH initially when cruising. It gets better as we get lighter. We get about 3.5 to 4 hours out of a full tank (16K) depending on what we are doing. Max endurance would come out to about a 5.0 if you stretch into the low fuel lights for a few minutes. I don't like to test that theory too often though.

[BONE Co-driver]

Max AB low level...around 290000+ per hour. High level cruise heavy weight (300000 lbs or more) about 22000 per hour, light (less than 300000 lbs) about 18000 per hour.

Full fuel load is about 205000lbs, however, for training missions we take off with between 150000 and 175000lbs.

[HerkDerka]

In the end game who cares? When the military starts paying me to fly like an airline pilot and save gas, I will. Until then I'm going to get home ahead of frag.

HD

[ 08. November 2005, 16:06: Message edited by: HerkDriver24 ]

[Bergman]

Originally posted by HerkDriver24:

Until then I'm going to get home ahead of frag.

HD

"Crew, we're pushing it up past max endurance...past max range...we're going straight to MORALE SPEED". .9 Mach in the -135!

[LJ Driver]

Originally posted by HerkDriver24:

In the end game who cares? When the military starts paying me to fly like an airline pilot and save gas, I will. Until then I'm going to get home ahead of frag.

HD

Unless your AC says no and slaps your hand, silly CP...

[Guest AirGuardian]

Concur with C17Driver (maybe you've seen this one!),

Unfortunately or Fortunately we did find out last week that with #1 at idle she burns about 800lbs per hour vs the other three running $4-5K per each... keeping us awake with fuel balancing, etc.

Had to bring #1 back to idle with an oil temp overheat during departure out the of sh*tty box last week. Cool'd her down and drove a mind numbing .70 back at a restricted FL260 for critical patient on board...anything to get back to the land of schnitzel....

[HeloDude]

The UH-1N burns 600 pph. We can carry 2003#'s with mains and aux. I know it's not saying much, but we can stop and hover and make a cool 'wap wap wap' sound.

[LockheedFix]

Any C-5 dudes wanna weigh in? I bet that's mind boggling.

[HerkDerka]

LJ let me know when you get through school and then we'll talk. It the meantime quit trying to start yet another fight and work on fixing those issues of yours.

HD

[ 09. November 2005, 07:57: Message edited by: HerkDriver24 ]

[HerkDerka]

Very nice. I'm talking about 1010 (or 932 for you) versus sitting back at 850.

HD

[KennyB]

Morale Speed... I need to write that down. That's a good one.

[LJ Driver]

Originally posted by HerkDriver24:

LJ let me know when you get through school and then we'll talk. It the meantime quit trying to start yet another fight and work on fixing those issues of yours.

HD

Yeah I better watch out, you might delete my posts and then lock the thread after one last cowardly jab that no one can respond to. And I am done with school.

[HerkDerka]

You could have fooled me.

HD