February 19, 201510 yr Heard a rumor the other day that the AF did a study and found out that they could offer a $1 million bonus and it would actually still be cheaper than if a pilot separated. I don't know if that is true, but interesting non the less. I personally don't think the political climate or the willingness of the AF is there to raise the bonus. I hope I'm wrong, but I think we are going to keep driving straight into the iceberg.
February 19, 201510 yr Any update on the FY15 program? IIRC, the past 2 years it wasn't released until June. Gonna guess it'll be the same again this year.
February 19, 201510 yr It was released recently I think. Check the PSDMs on MyPers. Nothing for FY15.
March 26, 201510 yr Noticed the ACP link isn't on MyPers. Wonder if they've taken it down because they don't plan on offering the bonus this year. I mean, if you think about it...why should we have to pay pilots to stay in when they should be fueled by an inherent desire to serve and fly for the Air Force? /GC
March 26, 201510 yr Noticed the ACP link isn't on MyPers. Wonder if they've taken it down because they don't plan on offering the bonus this year. I mean, if you think about it...why should we have to pay pilots to stay in when they should be fueled by an inherent desire to serve and fly for the Air Force? /GC It will come...probably same time frame as last year. Perhaps expanded # of "take" years for RPAs (same as 11Fs).
March 26, 201510 yr Heard a rumor the other day that the AF did a study and found out that they could offer a $1 million bonus and it would actually still be cheaper than if a pilot separated. I don't know if that is true, but interesting non the less. I personally don't think the political climate or the willingness of the AF is there to raise the bonus. I hope I'm wrong, but I think we are going to keep driving straight into the iceberg. Funny how rumors get started. Where the fuck did you hear this? No, the AF never did any such study. Gen Selva wrote a paper when he was at ACSC saying that they should get rid of flight pay and bonuses. Then put 1 Million Dollars in an escrow account when you graduate UPT. It collects interest over your career and you only get it if you finish out your 20. If you separate early it is GONE! That would be cheaper. Edited March 26, 201510 yr by Butters
March 26, 201510 yr It will come...probably same time frame as last year. Perhaps expanded # of "take" years for RPAs (same as 11Fs). I'll take "Things that won't dent the pilot retention problem" for $1000, Trebek..
March 28, 201510 yr $50K /year for 5 years, anyone? Would it change your mind? Hardly a drop in the bucket.
March 28, 201510 yr $50K /year for 5 years, anyone? Would it change your mind? Hardly a drop in the bucket. Our next TDY is about 2 weeks long and has us flying out of an air base a couple hours drive from the base I am stationed. The Air Force is refusing to stand up a dining hall for the 1000 people it is sending there. Rather, they are providing us a pile of MREs and $3.50 a day, saying that they aren't required to provide anything more than that. I would be more likely to stay in if they took that $50k/yr and provided a minimum quality of life greater than a bare mattress and an MRE. Lacking that basic promise, they can shove that money up their ass.
March 28, 201510 yr I've had a lot of fun at exercises where I slept in the hangar and ate MREs. If it's good enough for the grunts of the world, I'm fine with it. If your exercise is joint, plan to check your attitude at the door or you're going to make a really sh@tty impression. As to the question, $50k for five years would be more tempting. $50k to 20 years would be much harder to ignore. Throw in some free MREs...
March 28, 201510 yr Our next TDY is about 2 weeks long and has us flying out of an air base a couple hours drive from the base I am stationed. The Air Force is refusing to stand up a dining hall for the 1000 people it is sending there. Rather, they are providing us a pile of MREs and $3.50 a day, saying that they aren't required to provide anything more than that. I would be more likely to stay in if they took that $50k/yr and provided a minimum quality of life greater than a bare mattress and an MRE. Lacking that basic promise, they can shove that money up their ass. First world problems.
March 28, 201510 yr $50K /year for 5 years, anyone? Would it change your mind? Hardly a drop in the bucket. I fucking hate my job, but a quarter million is significant money. I'd still leave for a good deal contractor job, but that 250k would keep me from jumping to the guard or reserve if those were my best options. If I could have it all upfront, I might even stay on AD instead of promoting myself to the exalted rank of Mister.
March 29, 201510 yr This is why the other services call us whiny pussies. If you're eating MREs for more than a day, you'll need an emoticon thats violently expelling matter from a different orifice. That said, don't whine in front of the other services, they're probably getting their pay docked to pay for those MREs.
March 29, 201510 yr Someone always has it better, someone always has it worse. Having had my fair share of MREs and I would not be looking forward to eating MREs for two weeks. For all the talk about not being a pussy, I bet if you were in the same spot you'd whine to one of your friends at some point during those two weeks. Everyone gets out for their own reasons. Eating MREs for two weeks isn't going to push anyone out, but I'm pretty sure it won't help keep anyone in either.
March 30, 201510 yr Our next TDY is about 2 weeks long and has us flying out of an air base a couple hours drive from the base I am stationed. The Air Force is refusing to stand up a dining hall for the 1000 people it is sending there. Rather, they are providing us a pile of MREs and $3.50 a day, saying that they aren't required to provide anything more than that. I would be more likely to stay in if they took that $50k/yr and provided a minimum quality of life greater than a bare mattress and an MRE. Lacking that basic promise, they can shove that money up their ass. And you all wonder why there is a rift between those who fly and those who don't. Hmmmm.....
March 30, 201510 yr And you all wonder why there is a rift between those who fly and those who don't. Hmmmm..... How many places have you been where you were eating MREs?
March 30, 201510 yr And you all wonder why there is a rift between those who fly and those who don't. Hmmmm..... Because those who don't force those who fly to eat MREs for two weeks, for no real reason?
March 30, 201510 yr And you all wonder why there is a rift between those who fly and those who don't. Hmmmm..... I always thought it was just an intelligence gap
March 31, 201510 yr Word on the street is ACP will be released tomorrow. $25K/yr to 20 (9 years max) for all pilots.
March 31, 201510 yr Word on the street is ACP will be released tomorrow. $25K/yr to 20 (9 years max) for all pilots.
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