Swizzle Posted March 12, 2022 Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Hunter Rose said: The target is still 65% to maintain status quo manning. Big Air Force hasn't made that in years...probably approaching a decade now. AF is being forced by circumstances to change their offering(s)/options, let's see the bureaucracy turn on a dime now with whatever options remain (ex. payment timing, contract length, amounts [under $35k that is]) and the flexibility/options AF grants to prospective 'takers'. Not much else they can get creative with...new buzzwords perhaps... They haven't explored taker-directed payouts, aka taker decides where/to whom the $ goes
CaptainMorgan Posted March 12, 2022 Posted March 12, 2022 AF is being forced by circumstances to change their offering(s)/options, let's see the bureaucracy turn on a dime now with whatever options remain (ex. payment timing, contract length, amounts [under $35k that is]) and the flexibility/options AF grants to prospective 'takers'. Not much else they can get creative with...new buzzwords perhaps... They haven't explored taker-directed payouts, aka taker decides where/to whom the $ goesWhy would the taker want to send the $ to anyone but themself?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Guardian Posted March 12, 2022 Posted March 12, 2022 I don’t get the limited to 35k argument. Thought congress approved them for 48 when they asked for 60.
CaptainMorgan Posted March 12, 2022 Posted March 12, 2022 I don’t get the limited to 35k argument. Thought congress approved them for 48 when they asked for 60. NopeSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
jazzdude Posted March 12, 2022 Posted March 12, 2022 I don’t get the limited to 35k argument. Thought congress approved them for 48 when they asked for 60. RAND recommended 48-60k, AF asked for 48k, Congress approved 35k
Guardian Posted March 12, 2022 Posted March 12, 2022 Both house and senate have passed the appropriations bill and sent to Biden for signature in the last few days.
Bigred Posted March 12, 2022 Posted March 12, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 6:32 PM, Guardian said: Bonus. “It’s essential”. AD program. Capped at 35k per year by law (he claimed). O5 and below. Tiers. And required after pilot commitment complete. 2022 doesn’t have an appropriations bill yet or CR. So no bonus program yet. The 35k cap is written into law, it was passed as part of title 37 section 334. As to why the AF doesn’t have a program out yet, who knows. A quick Google shows that the Marines already have a program out and the Navy’s is about to be released.
di1630 Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 35K, 3-5-9 yr contract options. Should be out next week.Unsure on AFSC specifics or details. Don’t quote me.
Standby Posted March 16, 2022 Posted March 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, di1630 said: 35K, 3-5-9 yr contract options. Should be out next week. Unsure on AFSC specifics or details. Don’t quote me. Quoted to establish your rumor as gospel. 5 2
Guardian Posted March 21, 2022 Posted March 21, 2022 Guard part timer and or reservists part timers. Anyone still having issues getting flight pay?
hindsight2020 Posted March 21, 2022 Posted March 21, 2022 29 minutes ago, Guardian said: Guard part timer and or reservists part timers. Anyone still having issues getting flight pay? That's just a Tuesday in the NGB.
SocialD Posted March 22, 2022 Posted March 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Guardian said: Guard part timer and or reservists part timers. Anyone still having issues getting flight pay? It's still showing up via a secondary paycheck. Nothing like getting 6-9 pay stubs every month. Don't worry though...I was assured in 2018, that it would all be fixed when DFAS rolls out the new pay system in Jan of 2020... 1
mp5g Posted March 25, 2022 Posted March 25, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 9:14 PM, SocialD said: It's still showing up via a secondary paycheck. Nothing like getting 6-9 pay stubs every month. Don't worry though...I was assured in 2018, that it would all be fixed when DFAS rolls out the new pay system in Jan of 2020... SocialD, you should feel privileged. You are literally living the real life “checks in the mail” maxim. Your check has just been in the mail for 4+ years. 1
SurelySerious Posted March 25, 2022 Posted March 25, 2022 SocialD, you should feel privileged. You are literally living the real life “checks in the mail” maxim. Your check has just been in the mail for 4+ years. Maybe they’ll move from snail mail to IE11 soon like UTAPS and AROWS. Only the most advanced.
Guardian Posted March 25, 2022 Posted March 25, 2022 Anyone heard anything about a bonus yet? I thought the appropriations bill had been approved for some time.
SocialD Posted March 25, 2022 Posted March 25, 2022 1 hour ago, mp5g said: SocialD, you should feel privileged. You are literally living the real life “checks in the mail” maxim. Your check has just been in the mail for 4+ years. Right! It was real fun last week explaining to the loan assumptions department why I had 6 paychecks one month and 1 the next month. So now I just let my 105s stack up and sign them all at once on a monthly or bi-monthly basis. Our CSS chick was like, must be nice to not need your paycheck lol.
Chuck17 Posted March 30, 2022 Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) On 3/11/2022 at 11:56 AM, ClearedHot said: Highly doubtful at this point. Given the Russia/Ukraine situation and the potential for the house to flip I doubt we will see a substantial decrease in the Defense Budget. Ha yeah no kidding - things changed in the six months since I made that comment, so, good point... I guess I had too much focus on the withdrawal from Afghanistan and the historical evidence of reduced defense budgets under democratic leadership... Chuck Edited December 30, 2022 by Chuck17
jice Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 Looks like the new bonus is out. 35k/year (even for 11Rs this time) with 3-12 year options. Lump sums starting at 5 years for initial eligibles. CSOs/WSOs… it’s not awesome. 15/25/35k per year starting at 3/5/8. Now, if we can just get folks to see past the “35k max is congress’s fault…” It’s bullsh1t. We ask Congress to write a law about every dollar we spend; failing to equip the force in front of congress and failing to build the force we need (pay for talent) are both the same failure. 2
tac airlifter Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 We should all stop calling it a bonus. It’s a contract extention. 2
ImNotARobot Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 At the pilot occupational level, they staff and manage this place like a regional airline. So, treat your ADSC contract like you work for the best paid regional airline, and a lot of this lamenting is self-limiting. If you pursue an extension of your one-sided contract, do so with eyes wide open. And to be clear, there are reasons why it's ok to be a "regional lifer" (ask me how I know). No right or wrong answer, only the right or wrong answer for each individual and /or dependent family.Quoted again for posterity. 3
Hunter Rose Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 Was there a $35K/3yr option for folks who previously had a bonus and are done with it? Or is the $35K only for initial eligible?
Chuck17 Posted April 7, 2022 Posted April 7, 2022 Official release is 11 April, but AFPC sent it out to the MPFs already.... PSDM # is 22-30. Shoot me a govt email and I'll forward (FOUO). Chuck
brabus Posted April 10, 2022 Posted April 10, 2022 You know who else offers $35k bonuses…the guard. 3
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