Vetter Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 So, not having a Masters is like having 3 LORs or Q3s? Am I reading that correctly?
TheFranchise Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I found it depressing that hours/sorties don't directly account for anything in regards to promotion.
ThreeHoler Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I like that you get more points for a PT exempt than a pass.
Azimuth Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I like that you get more points for a PT exempt than a pass. Or the fact you get one point for having completed the minimum educational level to be an officer.
Muscle2002 Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I like that you get more points for a PT exempt than a pass. I was disappointed they didn't award points for each Christmas party planned, CFC directed, or volunteer hours.
Chuck17 Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 (in honor of March Madness) ....the instant you realize a worthless online masters degree counts twice as much as graduating WIC: (WTFO!) I'm sure this was put together by some exec - hence the severe exec points. Chuck
LockheedFix Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 You get half a point for taking a test (DLAB) that takes all of two hours regardless of how you scored?!
discus Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 You get half a point for taking a test (DLAB) that takes all of two hours regardless of how you scored?! I have had this mentioned to me as well... I just can't remember where I heard it.
backseatdriver Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 So JCS Staff outranks Wing exec by a whole half point. And getting higher than a 95 on your PFT outranks being an instructor in your MDS.... In what universe is this the system?
TheFranchise Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 I assure you it is legit. Our Squadron, Group and Wing Rack & Stack products are based on said formulas and all leadership is very well aware of said product. Each squadron fills this out for all members which is merged at the group level which is merged at the wing level. I do not know how legit this is in the eyes of an IG or Congressman but welcome to the modern day AF people; its as bad as you all thought it was. (If you want the Excel file let me know)
matmacwc Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 Hello, we are the guard, and we are here to actually help you. 1
billy pilgrim Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 (in honor of March Madness) ....the instant you realize a worthless online masters degree counts twice as much as graduating WIC: (WTFO!) I thought Welsh was going to fix this garbage. He is very personable and charismatic but I hope that what he says about caring for the CAF (and Air Force) isn't a means to an end but something he plans to do. We will see, doesn't look good currently.
discus Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 I thought Welsh was going to fix this garbage. He is very personable and charismatic but I hope that what he says about caring for the CAF (and Air Force) isn't a means to an end but something he plans to do. We will see, doesn't look good currently. Welsh may be just a bit busy right now trying to keep us funded to fly... I give him a pass.
Spaceballs Posted March 27, 2013 Posted March 27, 2013 I thought Welsh was going to fix this garbage. He is very personable and charismatic but I hope that what he says about caring for the CAF (and Air Force) isn't a means to an end but something he plans to do. We will see, doesn't look good currently. I thought Welsh was going to fix this garbage. He is very personable and charismatic but I hope that what he says about caring for the CAF (and Air Force) isn't a means to an end but something he plans to do. We will see, doesn't look good currently. Worthless masters > WIC Pt Test > Deployments Finance gets bronze stars What's the AF coming to?
Fifty-six & Two Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 Stats from this years board. First image is overall, second is IPZ, third is APZ.
contraildash Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 So a couple hundred didn't have their masters and still got picked up? Hmm.
sky_king Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) SOS in res + No AAD = 82.5% chance of promotion. Good enough odds for me. How would you like to be the ONE guy that got a DP but didn't get promoted. I wonder what his story was. Edited March 29, 2013 by sky_king
SurelySerious Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 The 4 IPZ and 5 APZ pilots with no degree and no SOS whatsoever... admirable, but appears to not be a successful strategy.
HU&W Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 100% of APZ pilots with DP got it. Only one APZ pilot with a P got it, and with no SOS in res or AAD. I guess there must be more to the story than just statistics.
FLY6584 Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 The 4 dudes with no SOS and no AAD are probably the smartest and luckiest dudes on that list. They will be allowed to separate in about a year and a half with a fat check for around $75k and plenty of hours to get hired at a major airline at the beginning of a hiring wave which will be very beneficial to them for seniority and upgrade to Captain. When I meet the board I will fall into the category of SOS In-Correspondance and no AAD so I hope I am not one of the 21% selected for Major. I may just have to ask the commander for a DNP to assure chances of being passed over.
Vetter Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 Enough hours to maybe get hired by a Major, but definitely not a $75k check. They'll be offered continuation, the last "fuck you" the AF will give.
FLY6584 Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 Enough hours to maybe get hired by a Major, but definitely not a $75k check. They'll be offered continuation, the last "###### you" the AF will give. You really think so? I heard no one that was passed over twice is being offered continuation?
brabus Posted March 29, 2013 Posted March 29, 2013 You heard wrong...at least for some dudes in our small corner of the AF.
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