xaarman Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 8 hours ago, bennynova said: Duck, If you have/had such a good record, how'd you manage to get passed over? What's the secret sauce? As a passed over '07 guy, I can shed a little insight on this. Turned down Chief of Wing Programming, Chief of Wing Life Support, and 2x Check Flight Commander to remain flying the line. I was having a blast, flying 3-5x a week teaching in T-1s. First SQ/CC asked me if I knew what I was doing to my career, and still let me do it. Second Commander reminded me, where I told him I was never going back to big blue. Fantastic Commanders that supported my goals. Also, at UPT, you can fly the line, I could not do the same at a big MWS base. Counting down the days until I get out. However, with all the shenanigans going on, I am very scared I might get promoted ABZ. Please dear God no.
cantfly Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) 38 minutes ago, xaarman said: As a passed over '07 guy, I can shed a little insight on this. Turned down Chief of Wing Programming, Chief of Wing Life Support, and 2x Check Flight Commander to remain flying the line. I was having a blast, flying 3-5x a week teaching in T-1s. First SQ/CC asked me if I knew what I was doing to my career, and still let me do it. Second Commander reminded me, where I told him I was never going back to big blue. Fantastic Commanders that supported my goals. Also, at UPT, you can fly the line, I could not do the same at a big MWS base. Counting down the days until I get out. However, with all the shenanigans going on, I am very scared I might get promoted ABZ. Please dear God no. This sounds like BS and you haven't read through the threads on this forum enough. So you think the AF is going to promote you ABZ without having planned a single X-mas party? #1 rule to AF Club is to plan the best X-mas parties. And you have to serve up pigs in a blanket. The top guys love those. I remember in 2004 or 2005 the promotion board didn't promote a lot of FAIPs. I know you aren't a FAIP.... Anyone know why the board went on a FAIP rampage? Edited April 30, 2017 by cantfly 1
SurelySerious Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 This sounds like BS and you haven't read through the threads on this forum enough. So you think the AF is going to promote you ABZ without having planned a single X-mas party? #1 rule to AF Club is to plan the best X-mas parties. I remember in 2004 or 2005 the promotion board didn't promote a lot of FAIPs. I know you aren't a FAIP.... He's not trying to get promoted. 2
Bender Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 #1 rule to AF Club is to plan the best X-mas parties.Sometimes I feel like you guys are okay without the Wing having a Christmas party. Are you also okay without the LGBT fun run, or the African-Asian-Pacific Islander-Martian heritage events? I don't know...I wouldn't lose any sleep if any of those things didn't happen, but if people like those things...if it impacts their morale, and they want to plan those things...I have little issue with that.(And yes I know this was from a previous post and not the one that was quoted, so don't get sand up in the vaj; you seem like you need to be told that.). When someone turns down additional responsibility to remain flying the line...no big deal, man. Right on...we should promote you based on you experience and also your instructional abilities. But when all you do is fly the line and you fly 3-5 times a week...even if I try, I can keep my eyebrow from going all fvcking Vulcan. Damn near gives me the Whittaker eye...How long does it take to work on your airline apps? Damn...for the Lts out there, sure does pay to keep that logbook up to date from the start!BendySent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums 1
bennynova Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 2 hours ago, D_Vezencuando said: After the 0517A MLR, someone mentioned SECAF guidance on Year Group role in 2017 boards. Has it been masked (or de-emphasized) to place Above Zones on equal footing? ...thoughts? It's been like that since CY15 boards.... at least that's when it began. Seems as though it has continued in 16.... we will see if it continues in 17 here in the next month. Only way to know for sure is to get ahold of the memorandum to the board...which is the same for each bird within the calendar year. It takes about 7 days to get the memo from afpc through a FOIA request.
Weezer Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 7 hours ago, D_Vezencuando said: After the 0517A MLR, someone mentioned SECAF guidance on Year Group role in 2017 boards. Has it been masked (or de-emphasized) to place Above Zones on equal footing? ...thoughts? It's not masked, but was deemphasized for the last several boards by way of the SECAF's memo of instruction to the board. For the most recent board, she also provided the same instructions to the MLRs. It's available on mypers if you want to read, I think. 1
D_Vezencuando Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) Thanks for the feedback. So either the elusive 0.5% APZ or retire as an O-4. Go with the flow... Edited April 30, 2017 by D_Vezencuando
Weezer Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 20 minutes ago, D_Vezencuando said: Thanks for the feedback. So either the elusive 0.5% APZ or retire as an O-4. Go with the flow... Sources say the APZ rate to Lt Col is much higher than last year. 1
Homestar Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 21 hours ago, Duck said: That's not happening obviously, seeing as the increment went from 180/mo to 261/mo. Lol Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums Active Duty Increments for Promotion to Lieutenant Colonel March LAF, CY16B: Quota 140, Remaining 766 April LAF, CY16B: Quota 140, Remaining 626 May LAF, CY16B: Quota 140, Remaining 486 June LAF, CY16B: Quota 81, Remaining 405 July TBD Active Duty Increments for Promotion to Major March LAF, CY16C: Quota 261, Remaining 1120 April LAF, CY16C: Quota 261, Remaining 859 May LAF, CY16C: Quota 261, Remaining 598 June LAF, CY16C: Quota 150, Remaining 448 MyPers doesn't list increments before March, so I'm not sure when the increment went from 180 to 261, but beginning in June the increment will decrease to 150, at which rate the Major list will be exhausted in September and the Lt Col list (increment of 81 in June) will be exhausted in November. I've not paid close attention to board other than my own, but I've never seen a LAF list start pinning on before January.
Duck Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 When I checked earlier in April they hadn't listed the 150 reduction in June. Thanks for posting that. I guess the timeline has slowed drastically. Good thing since they haven't even posted an update for the '08 board timeline.Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums 1
08Dawg Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Duck said: When I checked earlier in April they hadn't listed the 150 reduction in June. Thanks for posting that. I guess the timeline has slowed drastically. Good thing since they haven't even posted an update for the '08 board timeline. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums But let's have two O-4 boards in a year. Wonder if the 09 guys will have to wait around a year and a half before pinning on. 1
Bode Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Well that f**king blows. Guess I won't see major during my 365. Was looking forward to all that tax free. Would really like to see the reason to the reduction. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
dream big Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 1 hour ago, 08Dawg said: But let's have two O-4 boards in a year. Wonder if the 09 guys will have to wait around a year and a half before pinning on. Hmm, then why the hell are we having 08 and 09 boards this year? 09 guys are jumping through their asses trying to check their "boxes" before the PRF. AFPC must secretly know and assume that virtually the entire 05 year group is punching this year and 06 next year hahah.
Swizzle Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 57 minutes ago, Lstcause257 said: Well that f**king blows. Guess I won't see major during my 365. Was looking forward to all that tax free. Would really like to see the reason to the reduction. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Stop Loss will keep the retention rate 100%. There is no space for more FGOs under DOPMA. Carry on.
Duck Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 Stop Loss will keep the retention rate 100%. There is no space for more FGOs under DOPMA. Carry on.Actually that makes a lot of sense if that's the reason they are slowing the pin on rates that drastically. At 260 a month I assumed '08 would start pinning on in Aug/Sept.Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums
HU&W Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 They're just lead-turning the pendulum swing. Right after we stop loss, they'll have to do another RIF; probably want to take three years of cuts all at once. I'm just hoping the horse bucks before 31 Dec 2018 so TERA will still be legally authorized by the NDAA. 1
cantfly Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) So if you are at 18 years for your 2019 IPZ board for Lt Col. Will the board offer continuation to 20 years if you have a year and some change remaining? Edited April 30, 2017 by cantfly
bennynova Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 I am sure Analysts learn statistics and dampening equations at college, but somewhere along the way, AFPC teaches them that hyperbole extrapolation is the only answer
LookieRookie Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, cantfly said: So if you are at 18 years for your 2019 IPZ board for Lt Col. Will the board offer continuation to 20 years if you have a year and some change remaining? Doesn't that fall under sanctuary?
cantfly Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LookieRookie said: Doesn't that fall under sanctuary? I thought so too and read through the AFI. But I think it depends on the SECAF directions and AFPC to be honest. Everything I keep seeing refers to reservists. There is no guarantee the AF will allow you to retire at 20 years. This is how some folks were screwed over in 2011. Here are your walking papers after being passed over twice. I'm not trying to be promoted. I want to retire. Edited April 30, 2017 by cantfly
Guest Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 So if you are at 18 years for your 2019 IPZ board for Lt Col. Will the board offer continuation to 20 years if you have a year and some change remaining? Continuation won't be offered til you're passed over APZ.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
bennynova Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 TERA isn't current authorized anymore. It was when they were RIFing. But expired everything else said was correct. You will retire no problem. Just don't give them a reason to dishonorably discharge you
Homestar Posted April 30, 2017 Posted April 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Lstcause257 said: ...Would really like to see the reason to the reduction. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk DOPMA. They have a moving target. It's not uncommon for the increment to change.
bennynova Posted May 1, 2017 Posted May 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Homestar said: DOPMA. They have a moving target. It's not uncommon for the increment to change. Most people's ADSC are up in summer/fall... they probably caught up with last years seps, and aren't sure if it will continue this summer /fall because of all their awesome "fixes" to the system. They'll realize just as many are punching..... in the coming months 1
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