Promotion and PRF Information

[dream big]

43 minutes ago, Duck said:

Well Gents, it’s been fun but Duck is now a twice passed over Captain on his way out the door. I appreciate all of you who reached out and offered me advice throughout the years. I know that I will have a ton of questions going forward as I transition to the next step. This community is awesome and I love (most of) you guys.

Congrats man! I have a feeling you’ll be missed (in your real life squadron.)  

[xaarman]

Congratulations Duck.... it's much better on this side. If you don't have your airline applications ready to publish, get on it ASAP. Let me know if you have any questions on the 2x passed over process.

[B.L]

Well Gents, it’s been fun but Duck is now a twice passed over Captain on his way out the door. I appreciate all of you who reached out and offered me advice throughout the years. I know that I will have a ton of questions going forward as I transition to the next step. This community is awesome and I love (most of) you guys.

Awesome Duck. Glad it worked out!

[FUSEPLUG]

Fucking awesome. 

[Broke]

12 hours ago, Duck said:

Well Gents, it’s been fun but Duck is now a twice passed over Captain on his way out the door. I appreciate all of you who reached out and offered me advice throughout the years. I know that I will have a ton of questions going forward as I transition to the next step. This community is awesome and I love (most of) you guys.

Been there. Did they not offer continuation? I got continued on AD then Palace Fronted and made it first time in the Reserve. Highly recommend that option if you can find a unit. Feel free to hit me up if you have questions.

[Jaded]

Has there ever been a more crystal clear sign that an organization is fundamentally broken than the fact that this celebratory thread (the largest in years) is for an individual essentially getting notice he is being fired? 

That said, congratulations! 

[cragspider]

13 hours ago, Duck said:

Well Gents, it’s been fun but Duck is now a twice passed over Captain on his way out the door. I appreciate all of you who reached out and offered me advice throughout the years. I know that I will have a ton of questions going forward as I transition to the next step. This community is awesome and I love (most of) you guys.

Duck congrats and good luck. Thanks for all the info you kept pushing out here for the group. 

 

14 hours ago, Snuggie said:

My wing is going to announce on Monday. I have heard of at least one APZ that got told he made it already.

You can make that 2.  

[BashiChuni]

way to go duck!

[Duck]

Been there. Did they not offer continuation? I got continued on AD then Palace Fronted and made it first time in the Reserve. Highly recommend that option if you can find a unit. Feel free to hit me up if you have questions.

I don’t know yet about continuation. My Commander called me late Friday night. He said that a letter was supposed to be attached to the email he got about my passover but MPF forgot to attach it. He said we will talk Monday. Thanks again guys. I feel like I just won the lottery.

[matmacwc]

What now Ducky?  PM me if you're looking for a fighter and like the desert southwest.

Edited June 16, 2018 by matmacwc

[aggiecadet03]

still no news for me.  It's going to be a long weekend.  Also my CC is on leave.  Although I'm sure he got the list.

[bennynova]

Dick will most likely be continued to 20 years as a captain with the option to take it or get processed after 6 months.   

 

No no way does the Air Force "force" him out with it not being his choice.   If they did that, it's just like being RIFd or VSPd and they would owe him approx $100k

[di1630]

How F-d is an organization where a dude asks not to promote and gets congratulated for not doing so.

Congrats man.

[matmacwc]

21 minutes ago, bennynova said:

Dick will most likely be continued to 20 years as a captain with the option to take it or get processed after 6 months.   

 

No no way does the Air Force "force" him out with it not being his choice.   If they did that, it's just like being RIFd or VSPd and they would owe him approx $100k

IF you go ANG or reserve, don't take the money, you'll thank me later.

[Azimuth]

Congrats Duck!

[Duck]

Does anyone know anything about permissive leave that a Commander can authorize for people separating? Is that a thing? I have about 55 days stockpiled, but wondering if I can add to it for terminal. Thanks for the kind words brothers!

[Snuggie]

I also found out yesterday. I’m a 1APZ and I made it. So far all the APZs I’ve talked to have made it. I wonder of guys that were passed over again if there are any that didn’t have a QFI or asked not to be promoted.

[cragspider]

6 minutes ago, Snuggie said:

I also found out yesterday. I’m a 1APZ and I made it. So far all the APZs I’ve talked to have made it. I wonder of guys that were passed over again if there are any that didn’t have a QFI or asked not to be promoted.

I know one who asked to be passed over to get out got what they wanted. Plus they already have things lined up. 

[Duck]

Yes, you can do that. I ended up with about 3 months of terminal.
Get your TAP class scheduled and knock it out ASAP. You miss a week of work and you don't want to be doing that shit while you're in the middle of PCSing, separating, and job hunting all at one time.

Can the commander give you an additional 20 or something days? I thought I remember that somewhere.

[Duck]

Nope.  The permissive TDY for house/job hunting is only authorized for retirements or involuntary separations (it’ll be voluntary in your case cuz the AF will be kind enough to offer you continuation).  I got screwed on my end of ADSC separation.  I thought the same thing and took 19 ptdy days for house hunting and job interviews.  Commander approved (Yep, bad on both of us for not knowing the ins and outs of the AFIs), but the CSS dude (ya know, the dude whose J-O-B it is to know this stuff) signed off on it all three times.  
At my final out, was told by finance “sorry, that shouldn’t have been approved. We have to go back and change it to regular leave.”  I could either stay AD for 19 more days (not an option, HHGs were gone and I had airline Indoc to start) or charge it as excess leave.  I did the latter and got screwed out of 19 days of pay in the back end of my terminal leave.  
Big Blue just had to give one last kick in the crotch on my way out.  #byefelicia
 

That sucks man. Thanks for the info though!

[bennynova]

Just don't show up and don't sign up for leave.   It will all work itself out

[xaarman]

1 hour ago, Duck said:

Can the commander give you an additional 20 or something days? I thought I remember that somewhere.

I was able to take 20 days of permissive TDY tacked onto my terminal. 

[xaarman]

Ok I had to look back in my emails.  Your discharge benefits code is under “special benefits package.” When you go to Airman and Family Readiness, they will look up that code, which also authorizes you six months of healthcare under TAMP. 

 

MPF has a master list of codes that qualify for the 20 days of permissive TDY under the special benefits package listed above. Give them the code that A&FRC gave you and they will validate the 20 days. 

 

Edit: I had to go to MPF and get it added to DEERS, THEN Separations would validate/approve the 20 days. 

 

Edit 2: it was the Separation code, which was JGB for us. That’s what I had to get added to DEERS before pressing on. 

Edited June 16, 2018 by xaarman
See above

[Guardian]

I did it under the older leave rules. However it depends on your cc. If he doesn’t really care to give you permissive paper work to fill out then I wouldn’t tell a soul.

 

I agree. Doesn’t seem to be legal now though.

[xaarman]

What? Rule #2 specifically says special benefits package, which JGB falls under per MPFs own list.

 

As for currency, I separated 31 Dec 2017, so not sure what would have changed between now and then.