Promotion and PRF Information

[VolFan]

19 hours ago, HarleyQuinn said:

So PRFs or no PRFs for the P0418D line of the AF majors board?

In my neck of the AF, the guidance is we're writing them until we have explicit guidance not to from higher up.  

Didn't we just do this last year?

[Champ Kind]

In my neck of the AF, the guidance is we're writing them until we have explicit guidance not to from higher up.  

Man, that’s some bold risk taking there.....

[soupafly06]

RUMINT said there was a 91% select rate to O-5 this last board.  Is there anyone here in the know on what the APZ select rate was?

[bennynova]

Thats a decent guess, as near 90% were selected last year (total selected I/B/APZ over total IPZ)

[MDDieselPilot]

Updated Friday...

[pcola]

So, results in December?

[Skitzo]

So, results in December?

That’s usually the timeframe. But given we are hemorrhaging FGOs faster than we can make them maybe mid September isn’t a pipe dream.

[Breckey]

So I was briefed on an interesting tidbit regarding the 09 Majors board today. Apparently there is a new (~5 Jul 18) congressional report that is required to be run by the services IG concerning officer eligibility for promotion. This system was already in place for O-6+, however not for the lower ranks. Anybody that is up for promotion that has had a "public" negative indicator will be reviewed at a later time as was mentioned earlier. The main driver for this may have been some Missileers that were involved in the Malmstrom cheating scandal in 2014. Although their LORs were removed from their UIF in the intervening years, their records are being further scrutinized since they were involved in a very public scandal. Hopefully the process will be further vetted for the later year groups (10-11) that were also heavily involved. This new scrutiny caught many O-6 off guard as well.

[17D_guy]

5 hours ago, Breckey said:

So I was briefed on an interesting tidbit regarding the 09 Majors board today. Apparently there is a new (~5 Jul 18) congressional report that is required to be run by the services IG concerning officer eligibility for promotion. This system was already in place for O-6+, however not for the lower ranks. Anybody that is up for promotion that has had a "public" negative indicator will be reviewed at a later time as was mentioned earlier. The main driver for this may have been some Missileers that were involved in the Malmstrom cheating scandal in 2014. Although their LORs were removed from their UIF in the intervening years, their records are being further scrutinized since they were involved in a very public scandal. Hopefully the process will be further vetted for the later year groups (10-11) that were also heavily involved. This new scrutiny caught many O-6 off guard as well.

Just so we're clear, the guidance is: It's ok to screw-up, just don't do it publically.

[pawnman]

12 hours ago, Breckey said:

So I was briefed on an interesting tidbit regarding the 09 Majors board today. Apparently there is a new (~5 Jul 18) congressional report that is required to be run by the services IG concerning officer eligibility for promotion. This system was already in place for O-6+, however not for the lower ranks. Anybody that is up for promotion that has had a "public" negative indicator will be reviewed at a later time as was mentioned earlier. The main driver for this may have been some Missileers that were involved in the Malmstrom cheating scandal in 2014. Although their LORs were removed from their UIF in the intervening years, their records are being further scrutinized since they were involved in a very public scandal. Hopefully the process will be further vetted for the later year groups (10-11) that were also heavily involved. This new scrutiny caught many O-6 off guard as well.

The real fun part about this guidance is that if you even have an investigation open, they'll withhold your promotion until it finishes.  So if you've got that one airman that doesn't like you because you gave him an LOR for being late to work, it could delay your promotion.

[matmacwc]

So they are trying to prevent future leadership embarrassment by vetting the public life of its people?  OK, if that’s what we’re doing.

[war007afa]

Round 2 sans PRFs for O-4 board...

https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/1613364/major-laf-promotion-board-scheduled-for-december/

[pawnman]

16 minutes ago, war007afa said:

Round 2 sans PRFs for O-4 board...

https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/1613364/major-laf-promotion-board-scheduled-for-december/

After wings have already written them. Again.

Over-under on this board having the same delays as the last one?

[cragspider]

3 hours ago, pawnman said:

After wings have already written them. Again.

Over-under on this board having the same delays as the last one?

I’d say over again by 3 months from the original date they should have the results by. 

[ThreeHoler]

Did they ever promote the 200 “you got promoted but we don’t want to promote you” people?

[FourFans]

10 hours ago, pawnman said:

Over-under on this board having the same delays as the last one?

Duck's future isn't riding on this one, so it'll be on time.

[bennynova]

CY19 board schedule out

biggest change I see is Lt Col board is now 3 months earlier.   Board convenes in March vs June.

 

 

Edited September 5, 2018 by bennynova

[Champ Kind]

CY19 board schedule out
biggest change I see is Lt Col board is now 3 months earlier.   Board convenes in March vs June.
 
 

That brings the Lt Col board back to the “normal” timeline of March board for a June release.

[FourFans]

Just saw the advisory from higher: 0518 board results delayed "30 days" due to hang-ups at the "national level".

Duck, somehow this is your fault.

[pcola]

Not surprised. This is now taking money directly out of people's pockets. First increments for this board's selectees already pushed from 1 Oct to 1 Nov. Won't be surprised if this delay pushes it further back to 1 Dec.


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[Champ Kind]

Not surprised. This is now taking money directly out of people's pockets. First increments for this board's selectees already pushed from 1 Oct to 1 Nov. Won't be surprised if this delay pushes it further back to 1 Dec.


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How so? October is finishing up this year’s line numbers. Even with a month delay they can start pinning on the next batch on time in November.

[pcola]

How so? October is finishing up this year’s line numbers. Even with a month delay they can start pinning on the next batch on time in November.

Because they changed the monthly quotas not long ago to drag last year's line numbers into October. Was 123 per month through Jun and was projected to finish out in September. 123 x 3 = 369. 92 x 3 + 93 = 369.


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[Homestar]

This happens every year with every board.

[Champ Kind]

Just saw the advisory from higher: 0518 board results delayed "30 days" due to hang-ups at the "national level".
Duck, somehow this is your fault.

Confirmed on MyPers. They are probably trying to find out how wide they can open up the BTZ floodgate given the people in that year group who have bailed.

[bennynova]

Af!

Edited September 6, 2018 by bennynova