Promotion and PRF Information

[WheelsUp]

Oh we were briefed on it like a month ago, just what the commander said....hmmm 

[guineapigfury]

2 hours ago, drewpey said:

I don't believe it.  I've been tagged twice in a month, and when I showed up the second time it was the same group of guys I shot the shit with a few weeks earlier.

Given how the bean counters love to save a penny it would make sense, especially since the pop rate is relatively low.

I think they "randomly" select people who can waste a couple hours without affecting the flying schedule.  I remember being on casual status prior to UPT and having to go pee in a cup three times in one two week period, including back to back days.  Either I was just available, or someone was spreading lies about me.  Same thing happened at my first base after UPT.  I don't get tested for over a year, go DNIF and get tested twice in a week again.

[Bigred]

1 hour ago, guineapigfury said:

I think they "randomly" select people who can waste a couple hours without affecting the flying schedule.  I remember being on casual status prior to UPT and having to go pee in a cup three times in one two week period, including back to back days.  Either I was just available, or someone was spreading lies about me.  Same thing happened at my first base after UPT.  I don't get tested for over a year, go DNIF and get tested twice in a week again.

The unit commander can’t order a specific individual to undergo a ‘random’ test. If the commander has reason to suspect a service member is/has used drugs, the commander can order a test but the individual must be informed of his rights and why the test is being administered. 

What usually happens, the ‘random’ test is generated via a computer and the person in charge of the program doesn’t change any variables from the previous text. 

For your specific case, what likely happened was that when you were in a flight status your name popped up on a list and the administrator marked you unavailable due to flight schedule, etc. When you went DNIF that no longer applied.

[Shazaam]

3 hours ago, guineapigfury said:

I think they "randomly" select people who can waste a couple hours without affecting the flying schedule.  I remember being on casual status prior to UPT and having to go pee in a cup three times in one two week period, including back to back days.  Either I was just available, or someone was spreading lies about me.  Same thing happened at my first base after UPT.  I don't get tested for over a year, go DNIF and get tested twice in a week again.

When I was DNIF, I was tested a lot in Phase II. Just one of those things because you are available. If you give a sample every week, that's someone on the schedule who doesn't.

[Skitzo]

Was prescribed a legal dose of oxy after a visit to the ER.

I brought the RX to flight medicine the next day.... flushed the pills after a week.

I pissed six times in the next six months.

Haven’t pissed since.




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[Homestar]

4 hours ago, Bigred said:

The unit commander can’t order a specific individual to undergo a ‘random’ test.

Correct, or he/she can order his/her entire squadron to pee test.  One time I went into comply with such a lawful order and didn't pee enough to fill the cup to the line.  That was a mistake you only have to make once in your life.  2 hours and about a half gallon of water later I filled the cup...

[Shazaam]

46 minutes ago, Skitzo said:

Was prescribed a legal dose of oxy after a visit to the ER.

I brought the RX to flight medicine the next day.... flushed the pills after a week.

I pissed six times in the next six months.

Haven’t pissed since.
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If you have been legally prescribed a medicine, you don't have to worry about popping hot. They look to see if you were authorized the meds based on your medical records/prescriptions. I assume there are reasonable time limits that goes with your prescription and DDRP.

Edited April 29, 2019 by Shazaam

[TreeA10]

As a part time Reservist, I was tagged  for drug testing several times over a short period  of time which would irritate most anybody. Fortunately for me, the medical staff was poorly trained and in a hurry. This meant they were putting samples on common  work surfaces used by patients and medical staff. I merely documented those OSHA violations in an email to the WG/CC and cc'd the medical SQ/CC. That was 2003-ish I was never drug tested again and I retired in 2011. 

[Danger41]

11 hours ago, joe1234 said:

Yeah....that's why you don't do hiring for Google. I'd put my money on that college kid being able to run circles around some government trained IT troop when it comes to coding. That kid was probably staying up at 4am every night in Palo Alto or Pasadena smoking weed and coding apps and video game mods with his buddies for the past 6 years, instead of having to worry about dorm inspections and showing up at 0600 for squadron PT or something.

Definitely valid points and instead of championing the cause of the airmen versus video game coder, I’ll concede the point.

[Marco]

On 4/27/2019 at 7:34 AM, Shazaam said:

E's preach about the importance of a CCAF. I had a SNCO call another SNCO out for not having a CCAF. Go to Google and tell them you have your CCAF and you want them to hire you. I talked to the SNCO about the importance of leading and solving problems, but internally I kept feeling just like this in regard to the significance of a CCAF: 

 

 

Considering it’s a requirement now for those said SNCO’s in order to be promoted to E-9, I’d say that’s a valid argument for its significance (to them).  Stupid requirement on the part of the AF in my personal opinion, but it is what it is. I was actually surprised when I submitted my CCAF transcripts (along with my first bachelor’s transcript) and saw how much credit I was given with the CCAF versus my other degree by my university that I am currently attending.  I’m a post-bacc student getting an EE degree.  I like to joke that I’m probably the only case of someone actually getting a tangible benefit outside of the AF of having the prestigious CCAF degree. 😂

Edited April 29, 2019 by Marco
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[Gazmo]

If you have been legally prescribed a medicine, you don't have to worry about popping hot. They look to see if you were authorized the meds based on your medical records/prescriptions. I assume there are reasonable time limits that goes with your prescription and DDRP.

I think his point is... or at least what I got out of his story is that it looks like there was a good chance he was definitely being profiled and if that was the case, HTF did the drug testing people know of his medical records? That is HIPAA stuff right there.

[Shazaam]

1 hour ago, Gazmo said:

17 hours ago, Shazaam said:

 

I think his point is... or at least what I got out of his story is that it looks like there was a good chance he was definitely being profiled and if that was the case, HTF did the drug testing people know of his medical records? That is HIPAA stuff right there.

I would assume medical on base or a lab off base tests the results. The DDRP lady isn't testing your samples. Personnel running the tests already have access to your records or don't if sent off base.

Edited April 29, 2019 by Shazaam

[viper154]

3 hours ago, Gazmo said:

18 hours ago, Shazaam said:

If you have been legally prescribed a medicine, you don't have to worry about popping hot. They look to see if you were authorized the meds based on your medical records/prescriptions. I assume there are reasonable time limits that goes with your prescription and DDRP.

I think his point is... or at least what I got out of his story is that it looks like there was a good chance he was definitely being profiled and if that was the case, HTF did the drug testing people know of his medical records? That is HIPAA stuff right there.

I was put under and had a screw put in on Thursday, went to work on Monday and got popped. I had to go to a off base provider out of town because the shithole town I was in didn’t have a specialist, so in no way did my doc on base have a record of this surgery or prescription. I told my leadership before I left to pee that I had a legal prescription from my off base doc and I was going to pop positive, and I doubt that the base had my records for this yet, just to CYA. They just said go for it. I told the pee test lady my situation and she said if someone pops positive they compare what’s in your system to current medical records, if you have things in your system from recent surgeries/current prescribed meds then you are g2g. 

Moral of the story, they most certainly can access your medical records. 

[MechGov]

So...PRFs & promotions?

[pawnman]

2 hours ago, MechGov said:

So...PRFs & promotions?

I'm just waiting for the Status of Boards to update.

[Chromedome]

2 hours ago, pawnman said:

I'm just waiting for the Status of Boards to update.

Me too.  It hasn't updated since the 18th.  

[matmacwc]

On 4/27/2019 at 11:48 AM, di1630 said:

 

A few weeks back I was visiting my parents in a state where MJ is legal and after dinner I grabbed for an artisan caramel I saw. Luckily my sister saw me because it was her edible MJ and stopped me.

I’m not sure what I would have done if I had eaten it. Tell the USAF and get screwed or hope I don’t get popped for a drug test.

What would you dudes have done?



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,For those who don’t know, and I’d guess quite a few, you would know right away something tastes different.  It’s a lot more “earthy” and it takes a bit more butter to activate the THC.  When your memory starts to go away and you laugh at everything, you’re busted.  I’d fess up, shit stays in your system for like 30 days, it’s a simple oops I’d hope.

on a side note, I’ve been told if you have no gal bladder edibles won’t work at all.

Edited April 30, 2019 by matmacwc

[17D_guy]

Looks like some more year groups (at least for Cyber) got vectoring again.  The whole top/mid/bot-third w/ three pushes. 

CC walked in with mine today...this shit is so black magic I don't even care anymore.

[pawnman]

So I'm sure a few of you saw the AFPC mail robot requesting more officers for recruiting, ROTC, OTS, and Academy jobs.  I filled mine out hoping to go to an ROTC gig back in my home town.

I called the det in my home town.  They were super-excited to have a rated officer interested.  They're undermanned and need instructors.

My own community is shrinking.  Leadership is running through COA after COA for where we can possibly place all these pilots and WSOs as squadrons draw down to almost half their size, and as we're being told attached flyers will do all their currency and training events in the sim (if you're in the OSS, you're probably not going to see the inside of a jet again for a while, if ever).

So...after a couple phone calls and an email or two, I get my answer - rated officers are completely ineligible to teach ROTC due to the Rated Staff Allocation Plan (or whatever we're calling it now).

So, instead of not flying but executing a CSAF-directed task of bringing new officers into the Air Force, I can not fly and sit in an office here at Dyess because the UMD is programmed for a flyer.
Thanks, Air Force.

[bennynova]

I seriously doubt you will get selected as a rated guy

 

we are in a rated manning crisis; big AF won’t approve that, and if they do, it will be very limited....so your chances would be slim

Just My Opinion though 

[bennynova]

I guess I should have read past your first paragraph!

[matmacwc]

You’ve been around dude, there are exceptions for everything, you just need to talk to the correct person.  Who that is?  I don’t know.

Edited May 1, 2019 by matmacwc

[SocialD]

4 minutes ago, matmacwc said:

You’ve been around dude, there are exceptions for everything, you just need to talk to the correct person.  Who that is?  I don’t know.

Congressman...wild card bitches!

Edited May 1, 2019 by SocialD

[bennynova]

Or talk to shazzams SQ/CC.... I hear she has a direct line to Gen Kelly

Edited May 1, 2019 by bennynova

[pawnman]

27 minutes ago, bennynova said:

I seriously doubt you will get selected as a rated guy

 

we are in a rated manning crisis; big AF won’t approve that, and if they do, it will be very limited....so your chances would be slim

Just My Opinion though 

I guess I'm more valuable not flying at Dyess than I am not flying at an ROTC detachment