Jaded Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 I can't ever remember a time when afsoc has had a lower retention rate than the rest of the force. I've never been in the command though, so don't know the pulse of the senior captain types.
DirkDiggler Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Winchester said: I believe there will be quite the reckoning in the next two years for "mother" AFSOC. A1 has no idea what is about to happen when ADSCs run out for the bulk of their "experience". They aren't even planning for the level of attrition that "might" occur. If manning is bad now....just wait, it'll be a bad day over Hanoi for the clerks. I'm sure other MAJCOMs will suffer the same fate but the above quoted mentality in AFSOC will be their demise. IMO. I know Gen Heithold has specifically mentioned AFSOC promotion rates as something the command needs to get better at. Rationale was that if we're trying to convince quality people to come to AFSOC we need to take care of them and part of that is getting them promoted. Not sure how this is gonna jive with the drawdown in "official" combat operations. Prior to 9/11 AFSOC's promotion rates generally lagged the rest of the AF. Be interesting to see if Webb continues to put emphasis on this.
icohftb Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 1 hour ago, bennynova said: List is out there, boys.... . Good luck to all! didnt see it on mypers.. or do you mean commanders have it?
Skitzo Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Not sure about what you're looking at specifically, but when it says MAJCOM I believe it's referring to the promotion rate for that MAJCOM. For example, a P in AFSOC got you what was really a 22% promotion rate (or close to it). Other MAJCOMs do better. Some worse. AFSOC doesn't take care of people and if you are new to the command and not an AFSOC baby you are f'd. Current AFSOC trend is to not strat individuals unless they are in the top 15% Is this in line with the rest of the Air Force? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Hot Sauce Hoy Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Pretty sure senior rater types have it now but I don't think they are supposed to tell people until the day before public release, but I suspect some will find out tomorrow.
bennynova Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 17 minutes ago, icohftb said: didnt see it on mypers.. or do you mean commanders have it? correct, certain level of CCs have it..... as well as execs same as with any board results. the list is out there a good week or 2 in advance.
Azimuth Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 36 minutes ago, Hot Sauce Hoy said: Pretty sure senior rater types have it now but I don't think they are supposed to tell people until the day before public release, but I suspect some will find out tomorrow. They do have it.
17D_guy Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Skitzo said: Current AFSOC trend is to not strat individuals unless they are in the top 15% Is this in line with the rest of the Air Force? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk In my neck of the woods it's top 25%, which can be broken along many different lines (AFSC, position, level). Our current CC does not like strats among year-group, his rational is sound though I've heard good arguments to the contrary. This is the first year I've paid attention to "the game" and it's been very interesting to see the... discussion take place among people who though they were a shoe in for promotion, and didn't make it. Additionally, those that though they were BTZ.. but aren't. We've started sharing that "You Are Not BTZ" article about, and having frank discussions with our peers...since most of the O5's can't seem to be honest about it, or don't know how to. Seriously.. how hard is it to tell someone they're not in the top 25% and be honest about their future prospects? Edited June 7, 2016 by 17D_guy
tac airlifter Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Hot Sauce Hoy said: Pretty sure senior rater types have it now but I don't think they are supposed to tell people until the day before public release, but I suspect some will find out tomorrow. I've never understood this. Why is this a huge secret until the official day? Anyway, yes commanders have it and some already told their folks.
ThreeHoler Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Current AFSOC trend is to not strat individuals unless they are in the top 15% Is this in line with the rest of the Air Force? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That was the game at my last base.
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 10 minutes ago, tac airlifter said: I've never understood this. Why is this a huge secret until the official day? Anyway, yes commanders have it and some already told their folks. It's not that it's a "huge secret" but more a timing deal. Ideally the I/APZ non-selects are notified first and then the selects. Typically, 2x APZ then there is continuation/non-continuation paperwork, it takes a while for FSS to get it compiled. Couple that with the fact that the Wg/CC or SRs schedules are typically booked top-to-bottom, it becomes an issue and gives the appearance of keeping a secret. There is no guidance that I have seen stating when to pre-notify, only guidance providing the official release date. We began asking our FSS for the list last week and got it this morning. Each SRs list only provides the names of those currently in their rating chain and not everyone that met the board.
danvgalhb Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 16 minutes ago, tac airlifter said: I've never understood this. Why is this a huge secret until the official day? Anyway, yes commanders have it and some already told their folks. Already told others? I figured CCs would wait at least until Wednesday. It's almost cruel to tell people two days before the "official" release day knowing that the selects may have to restrain themselves for a little while from saying too much to their peers. Well, best of luck to all!
aerobat95 Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Does anyone know if everyone was offered continuations?
bennynova Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 well, EVERYONE is a strong word but i'm sure MOST (that are passed over for the second time will be offered continuation) there will always be those that have referral OPRs or legal trouble that may not.... among other circumstances
bennynova Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, ThreeHoler said: "As met" records are out on PRDA. as met records have been on PRDA for a few months now, sir Edited June 7, 2016 by bennynova
ThreeHoler Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 as met records have been on PRDA for a few months now, sir Incorrect. The "will meet" have been available to the members but the "as met" only just became available.
bennynova Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, Vetter said: Burn. that was a pretty sick burn. how often are there actually differences between "will meet" board and "as met" the board?
ThreeHoler Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Every board, since you only see your OPB before the board and you generally never see your OSB until after the board. However, I personally know of at least two people that had decorations showing in the "will meet" section but we're not part of their "as met" record, and the board(s) never saw the decorations.
danvgalhb Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 So has anyone been told of their results? I don't think anyone at my base got informed yet.
Hot Sauce Hoy Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Should be tomorrow for most followed by public release Thursday morning.
tac airlifter Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 1 hour ago, danvgalhb said: So has anyone been told of their results? I don't think anyone at my base got informed yet. I was told Monday.
HeloDude Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 2 hours ago, danvgalhb said: So has anyone been told of their results? I don't think anyone at my base got informed yet. Notified today... 1
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