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I have never once thought about someone coming in from another service and how their PRF might look.   

Very interesting

You have a lot of major strats, so I'm assuming you are asking for an 0-5 to 0-6 section board?   If you are asking about a major to lt col board, then you are a shoe in for LT col btz.   

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Well I don't want to get your hopes up too much.  The board may look through your records more closely and depending on how the navy does business, it may make a difference in how they score your records....   

but id say you have a great shot btz, and def an easy shot in the zone if it comes to that

 

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10 hours ago, ihtfp06 said:

If you take the bonus, and are subsequently 2x passed over for LtCol, if you get out do you have to repay the bonus money?


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I didn't think you got passed over, then why do you ask?

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1 hour ago, AFmedic said:

Yes Sir.  I am a Maj going up for Lt Col (1-BPZ).  Thank you for the feedback and vote of confidence.  Feeling good following your comments...and I'm assuming you're a line guy so even better.  Thank you again! 

Go buy a lottery ticket, your chances are about the same.  If no O-6 or 0-7 have told you the rank is coming, then chances are slim to none.

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35 minutes ago, matmacwc said:

Go buy a lottery ticket, your chances are about the same.  If no O-6 or 0-7 have told you the rank is coming, then chances are slim to none.

???

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The best part is the IST bubbas who will have to have records interpreted or decided won't receive JQO credit. Only in the AF...

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1 hour ago, bennynova said:

???

Seriously? BTZ is like 5%, and a medical officer (not a doc) is seriously out of the running.  Add up that this person is previously of another branch, those OPR's do not translate.

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Ok, good points

.  I'm going purely based on the strats he mentioned.  Those are better than most I see.  Way better. 

 

Afmedic, your PRF is already at the board which met in late February, correct?

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...MAJCOM Lance Sijan
...Base CGOY
...Wing FGOY

...joint deployer leading rotary wing medevac ops for US Army/NATO forces

...GO exec.


Have done all I can do.  It's in the good Lord's hands now.


So you're saying there's a chance? Did you get a DP? If not, this has already been decided and there is no mystery. If yes, understand all the other DPs have records just as good...how much does it even really matter. Go to school, keep up the good work, stay if you want, leave if you want...if not this year, you'll surely get your promotion next year.

I've seen dudes move mountains and get 'P' 1-BPZ and dudes just plodding the standard HPO path get a 'DP' for nothing much special...

The promotion system leaves a lot to be desired...despite all the very solid people that will tell you, "we get it right most of the time."

You'll be fine...I humbly suggest you focus on something actually important in life.

Bendy


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Memo just dropped today, ALL O-3s twice not selected for promotion to O-4 WILL be offered continuation to retirement as long as they are "Fully Qualified". I didn't see where the memo originated, but bad news for anyone foolishly hoping to get a non-continuation check.


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54 minutes ago, Duck said:

Memo just dropped today, ALL O-3s twice not selected for promotion to O-4 WILL be offered continuation to retirement as long as they are "Fully Qualified". I didn't see where the memo originated, but bad news for anyone foolishly hoping to get a non-continuation check.


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With the current hemorrhaging of manpower, I find this unsurprising.  I had an FTU instructor who retired as a captain...with a toilet boil on his wings.  Weirdest thing I ever saw. 

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1 hour ago, Duck said:

Memo just dropped today, ALL O-3s twice not selected for promotion to O-4 WILL be offered continuation to retirement as long as they are "Fully Qualified". I didn't see where the memo originated, but bad news for anyone foolishly hoping to get a non-continuation check.


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Don't do it.

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14 hours ago, Duck said:

Memo just dropped today, ALL O-3s twice not selected for promotion to O-4 WILL be offered continuation to retirement as long as they are "Fully Qualified". I didn't see where the memo originated, but bad news for anyone foolishly hoping to get a non-continuation check.


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I'd like to see the source if anyone can find it. I'd imagine this is probably where the USMC is going.

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Screw active duty and all that, but... Combine a blanket continuation policy with the change to promotion board guidance that has recently allowed people to be picked up for O-4 on their 5th and 8th looks, and the "up or out" system has in a certain sense been waived. That's heavy stuff.

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Screw active duty and all that, but... Combine a blanket continuation policy with the change to promotion board guidance that has recently allowed people to be picked up for O-4 on their 5th and 8th looks, and the "up or out" system has in a certain sense been waived. That's heavy stuff.

I asked around and obviously DOPMA still trumps continuation with outstanding ADSCs, so although they are now going to be blanket continuing everyone, if you decline their generous offer of continuing to 20, you still separate NLT 6 months after notification, regardless of ADSC.


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I'd like to see the source if anyone can find it. I'd imagine this is probably where the USMC is going.

I'll post it tonight. There is a mypers stamp on it, but it has no routing list or anything. Isn't even signed. It does however list the authority being under "Title 10... blah blah blah".

 

This was distributed through our base MPF office but who sent it to them, who knows...

 

 

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Screw active duty and all that, but... Combine a blanket continuation policy with the change to promotion board guidance that has recently allowed people to be picked up for O-4 on their 5th and 8th looks, and the "up or out" system has in a certain sense been waived. That's heavy stuff.


Considering a bi-partisan commission just released a report recommending major changes to the military personnel system, including removal of "up or out", you may be right.

If you haven't yet, I highly recommend perusing the report, a lot of good changes if DoD bothers to read it and take it seriously.

Link: https://cdn.bipartisanpolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/BPC-Defense-Building-A-FAST-Force.pdf


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Dude as long as they don't change anything by this Dec. I am looking at twice passed over for the win!


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12 minutes ago, Duck said:

Dude as long as they don't change anything by this Dec. I am looking at twice passed over for the win!


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So that is what is going to likely happen to me, because I didn't do USMC PME, which is a two year program. Does anyone know how Guard units look at that stuff? If it's any help, I have a Master's Degree and will be complete with AF PME - Squadron Officer School, in less than a week.

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5 years ago my ANG unit tried to hire a twice passed over Capt and wasn't successful in getting a waiver. Now it seems pretty easy to get the waiver. My unit has told me that I will pin on O-4 as soon as I get there and they can process the paperwork since I have SOS complete.


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2 hours ago, Duck said:

5 years ago my ANG unit tried to hire a twice passed over Capt and wasn't successful in getting a waiver. Now it seems pretty easy to get the waiver. My unit has told me that I will pin on O-4 as soon as I get there and they can process the paperwork since I have SOS complete.


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Duck, you can be my wingman any day.

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