itsokimapilot Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 I'm curious why you think anyone needs super cruise to intercept a Bear. That wasn't really the point of my question. I'm not too familiar with super cruise really, for me it's exceeding .74M. However, I would think the extra drag might make higher cruising speeds harder to attain. Do you need super cruise to intercept a Bear? Maybe, probably depends on the situation. If you have F22s sitting alert, do you want the ability to intercept any threat at a further distance from the ADIZ? I thought that was the point of the capability. If F22s are sitting alert with drop tanks and can't attain super cruise whats the point of having the Raptor sit the alert?
BQZip01 Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 What's the point of a stealth fighter that needs drop tanks to intercept? What's the unrefueled range of a fighter? What's the range of a Bear? The delta there just might be a hint. No reason to be defensive. I don't like the craptor. Mr Subtle...
Danny Noonin Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 If F22s are sitting alert with drop tanks and can't attain super cruise whats the point of having the Raptor sit the alert? Don't be a dumbass. The point is the same as having Eagles or Vipers sit alert. Are there other fighters at Elmendorf you'd recommend sit alert instead of raptors? And do you even understand what super cruise is used for? And you can always punch the tanks off if you need to. That's why they're called "drop tanks"
itsokimapilot Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Don't be a dumbass. The point is the same as having Eagles or Vipers sit alert. Are there other fighters at Elmendorf you'd recommend sit alert instead of raptors? And do you even understand what super cruise is used for? And you can always punch the tanks off if you need to. That's why they're called "drop tanks" Why dont you not be a dumbass. That's the point I'm making. Why waste the fvcking money on raptors to do something that an eagle or viper is quite capable of. Holy shit, thanks for the education, wow "drop tanks" now it all makes sense!OBTW, my original comment was an off the cuff joke about the drop tanks being there in the first place. Not really intended to be a capabilities pissing match.
rcwelch Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Here is one my daughter sent me when they were supporting our allies.... Edited February 9, 2012 by rcwelch
Steve Davies Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Here is one my daughter sent me when they were supporting our allies.... It's not often that anyone here calls the French their 'allies'.
Vertigo Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 OK, NOT A-A, but still cool. Hypocrite. Ahem...thread is Air-to-air pictures...
Danny Noonin Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 It's not often that anyone here calls the French their 'allies'. You're right. You usually hear them called cheese-eating surrender monkeys.
rcwelch Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Another one from their AR work....one more....
B52gator Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) 45 M117s= My favorite loadout. Simple, but effective. Edited February 12, 2012 by b52gator
Guest Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 My favorite loadout. Simple, but effective. Really? All bang, no buck.
Murph Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 You're right. You usually hear them called cheese-eating surrender monkeys. Who flew through the Libyan IADS before anyone else on this board did.
ClearedHot Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Who flew through the Libyan IADS before anyone else on this board did. Libyan IADS?
Bergman Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Libyan IADS? Well, not any more. I'm not certain it was ever integrated...so maybe just ADS? https://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=23841
Guest Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 Who flew through the Libyan IADS before anyone else on this board did. LOL!
Murph Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) It's entirely possible I took Noonin's post out of context, so if I did, my bad. Whatever the case is about the capes of the Libyan C3I, my point is that the frogs flew through some legit threat rings, without SEAD and before most other NATO countries. And yes Rainman, you flew in Kosovo and dealt with a robust IADs that blows the Libyan "IADs" out of the water. Got it. Edited February 12, 2012 by Murph
Danny Noonin Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 my point is that the frogs flew through some legit threat rings, without SEAD and before most other NATO countries. The point Davies made was about the french being allies. Not about the giant brass stones it must have taken to fly through Libya's country-wide super MEZ without so much as even NATO to back them up (gasp!). This is not about the bravery of their pilots. This is about the country and its government. As for allies, I suggest you educate yourself. From Eldorado Canyon to Southern Watch to just selling counter-US jammers to anyone wih a checkbook, that country has a long history of being no one's ally but their own. 1
Murph Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) This is not about the bravery of their pilots. This is about the country and its government. Which is why I suggested that I might've taken your quote out of context. As for allies, I suggest you educate yourself. I never said shit about them being good allies. See above. Edited February 12, 2012 by Murph
B52gator Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 ....Reminds me of BQZip's Mom I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end...but it is kinda old school in a way. Don't get me wrong, a loadout of JDAM with a stick of 86s is always nice, but I like the using a sledgehammer to kill a fly approach.
Danny Noonin Posted February 13, 2012 Posted February 13, 2012 HOSS, on 12 February 2012 - 10:15 AM, said: ....Reminds me of BQZip's Mom I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end... I bet you'd like to have that post back.
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