osulax05 Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) 35 minutes ago, dream big said: Same thing happened to us circa 2011; no fighters because B-course is backed up. Glad to know we learn from our mistakes... Also to “us” in 08/09. Z flight! Edited October 7, 2017 by osulax05
brabus Posted October 8, 2017 Posted October 8, 2017 10 hours ago, Seriously said: Some squadrons are better than others, but I wouldn't say that mindset is near death though. Compared to 5-6 years ago it is. At least they're doing flow throughs now and have pretty much shit canned slide/scram. But you're right, as in any community, it can depend on the squadron. I still give the hornet guys props for driving the community in the right direction.
Sparkle Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 EN 18-01 drops tomorrow and had to put the growler on their dreamsheets. Today they were called in by the SNR and told to not expect great things at their drop. They had to reorganize their dreamsheets with emphasis on non-fighter options.
FishBowl Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 Hey, at least it’s not RPAs. (No offense to the RPA dudes) Good luck, 18-01!
Danger41 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 Hopefully nobody in that class learns the brutal lesson of "I wish I would've tried a little harder" during the great fighter giveaway of 2017... 1
Vimix22 Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 22 hours ago, Sparkle said: EN 18-01 drops tomorrow and had to put the growler on their dreamsheets. Today they were called in by the SNR and told to not expect great things at their drop. They had to reorganize their dreamsheets with emphasis on non-fighter options. We had a Commander's Call today and the 71 OG spoke briefly on the T-38 assignments topic. He said the AF had to cut 40 F-16 slots. It wasn't specifically clarified but I presume that was for FY18 classes. He said it was due to the F-16 training units at Holloman not coming online as fast as the AF expected. With the reduced F-16 drops future T-38 classes could expect to see more drops from AFSOC and the ISR communities. U-28s, EC-130s, RC-135s, MC-130s, and CV-22s were specifically mentioned. 1
Kenny Powers Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 Some one better live stream all the tears...
Brick Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 KCBM 18-01 T-38s F-15J JASDF 2x F-15C F-15E T-6 FAIP C-146 B-52 RC-135 T-1s KC-135 Kansas ANG 2x KC-135 Penn ANG KC-135 Scott KC-135 Fairchild KC-135 Seymour Johnson C-130H GA ANG C-5 Kelly Field AFRC C-17 Charleston AFRC 2x KC-10 McGuire C-130J Yokota C-130J Little Rock EC-130 Davis Monthan E-3 Tinker T-6 FAIP T-1 FAIP
Sparkle Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 EN 18-01 Active F-22 x 1 F-35 x 1 F-15C x 1 F-15E x 2 A-10 x 1 B-52 x 2 C-146 x 2 RC-135 x 1 E-8 x 1 Guard/Reserve F-16 x 1 Foreign Danish F-16 x 2 German Tornado x 1 German T-38 FAIP x 2 German Eurofighter x 1 Belgian F-16 x 1 Belgian NH-90 x 1
Boomer6 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) END 18-01 -38s: F-22 A-10 B-1 AC-130 U-28 E-3 Edited October 14, 2017 by Boomer6
zachtx Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) KEND 18-01 AD T-1s: C-17 (x2) McChord KC-10 Travis AC-130J Hurlburt RC-135 Offut E-8 Robbins C-130J Yakota CV-22 Cannon U-28 Cannon I think I missed 1 or 2, but there was a decent number of Guard/Reserve guys: C-17, 2x C-130H, a tanker or two. No FAIPs at Vance. Edited November 4, 2017 by zachtx
di1630 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Where is the bottleneck? IFF or FTU for the fighters or is this driven by a need for them in other places? Shocker they couldn't stand up Holloman F-16 capacity with all the 7 day opts.
Azimuth Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 13 hours ago, Brick said: KCBM 18-01 KC-135 Scott This guy used to be my troop at Altus. He was a prior KC-135 Boom, put on MSgt at 10-years, Test Boom at Edwards before even going to OTS. One of the smartest aviators I've ever known. Glad to see he got his wish to go back to tankers. He's a great dude! 1
MooseAg03 Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 50% fighters at ENJJPT is still a far cry from the ‘08-‘10 drops. 1
skosh Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 26 minutes ago, MooseAg03 said: 50% fighters at ENJJPT is still a far cry from the ‘08-‘10 drops. True statement, my class (in '11) had less than a third. The pendulum will continue to swing as it always has.
PlanePhlyer Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 (edited) Call me an @ss, but I'm so glad the entitled Fighter era is coming to a close (at least for now). Let the butt hurting commence. Edited October 14, 2017 by PlanePhlyer 2 1
Duck Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 Call me an @ss, but I'm so glad the entitled Fighter era is coming to a close (at least for now). Let the butt hurting commence. Agreed. I wish they could plan further than 3 months out too.
LiquidSky Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 (edited) Don't recall the full list but XL 18-01 drops: 38s: 1 x B52 1 x F22 1 x F16 (Guard) 1 x T6 Faip 1 x EC 130 1 x F15E 1 x U28 T1s: 2 x C17 1 x T1 FAIP 1 x E3 1 x U28 2 x KC135 (Guard) 1 x C130 Someone else will have to fill in the rest. Edited October 15, 2017 by LiquidSky Corrected/updated drops based off replies.
FishBowl Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 15 hours ago, LiquidSky said: Don't recall the full list but XL 18-01 drops: 38s: 1 x B52 1 x F22 1 x F16 (Guard) 1 x T6 Faip 1 x EC 130 2 x U28 There was also an F-15E.
Inertia17 Posted October 15, 2017 Posted October 15, 2017 18 hours ago, LiquidSky said: Don't recall the full list but XL 18-01 drops: 38s: 1 x B52 1 x F22 1 x F16 (Guard) 1 x T6 Faip 1 x EC 130 2 x U28 T1s: 2 x C17 1 x T1 FAIP 1 x E3 2 x KC135 (Guard) 1 x C130 Someone else will have to fill in the rest. One of those U-28s was on the T-1 side. And the other T-38 stud got a F-15E.
Badger_Flyboy Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 18-01 Helo drop CV-22 Cannon UH-1N FE Warren UH-1N Andrews HH-60 Moody HH-60 Davis-Monthan HH-60 Kadena HH-60 Patrick (reserve) HH-60 Moffett (guard)
HeloDude Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Badger_Flyboy said: 18-01 Helo drop CV-22 Cannon UH-1N FE Warren UH-1N Andrews HH-60 Moody HH-60 Davis-Monthan HH-60 Kadena HH-60 Patrick (reserve) HH-60 Moffett (guard) Damn--8 in a class? Is that the standard? Also, is is 1 class every 6 weeks or something different?
Badger_Flyboy Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 6-8 is pretty standard. Haven't seen more than 8 yet. Drop every 5 weeks. 11 drops per FY.
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