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  On 6/6/2022 at 2:06 AM, HU&W said:
False hope is literally the AF’s favorite management tool.  Without it, the Bobs might actually have to lead.  

It’s really the only management tool

“Bust your ass and maybe you can get *insert desired assignment here*”

“Do this to make sure you don’t close any doors”



I quit that game years ago


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One night North of JBAD we were supporting a routine nightly DA from the bottom of an air stack 20 miles high.  Upon infil the objective village came to life and a large group with small arms, RPGs, a

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Hey folks, don't confuse my sarcastic and pessimistic posts for the voice of a dude who's going to give up and watch the house burn down around him. (Although it's probably easy to think that way

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All that time spent learning how to get ATIS by yourself...wasted.

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KSPS 22-06

3xF-35 - Luke AFB

3xF-16 - TBD

3xEUROFIGHTER - Laage AB

T-38A - Langley

Tornado - Schleswig AB

T-38C - Sheppard AFB 

T-6 - Sheppard AFB

2xB-52 - barksdale

F-22 - Eglin

CF-18 - cold lake, Alberta

A-10 - Davis-Monthan

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Bode Flight Lead

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T-6 FAIP drop to NAS Pensacola last night. Probably the best FAIP assignment in history. The real question is how will they compete on the tail end of their FAIP tour?

No idea about anything else.


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  On 7/16/2022 at 9:54 PM, Bode said:

CSO school house


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Was there a Joint Spouse or something else influencing that decision?  Obviously, CSO IPs don't have the same instructional skill set...hell, the student doesn't even get to land the plane, much less get prepped to go fly a solo.  I'd hazard a guess that the PNAS location is a placeholder for Whiting field where UPT is at.

 

Regardless, yes...either way a FAIP assignment to Pensacola has to be the best thing going!   

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  On 7/17/2022 at 12:59 PM, GKinnear said:
Was there a Joint Spouse or something else influencing that decision?  Obviously, CSO IPs don't have the same instructional skill set...hell, the student doesn't even get to land the plane, much less get prepped to go fly a solo.  I'd hazard a guess that the PNAS location is a placeholder for Whiting field where UPT is at.
 
Regardless, yes...either way a FAIP assignment to Pensacola has to be the best thing going!   

Nah. It was just tossed in there.

No way it’s a placeholder for Whiting. The AF hasn’t sent a student there in over 7 years


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  On 7/17/2022 at 12:59 PM, GKinnear said:
Was there a Joint Spouse or something else influencing that decision?  Obviously, CSO IPs don't have the same instructional skill set...hell, the student doesn't even get to land the plane, much less get prepped to go fly a solo.  I'd hazard a guess that the PNAS location is a placeholder for Whiting field where UPT is at.
 
Regardless, yes...either way a FAIP assignment to Pensacola has to be the best thing going!   

Nope, it’s something they have been working to have happen for a few years.
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KCBM 22-13 drop

U-28 - Hurlburt

T-6 - Columbus

C-21 - Scott

KC-46 - McConnell

C-17 - NC ANG

C-130H - JASDF

HC-130 - CA ANG

C-17 - WV ANG

MC-130J - PA ANG

C-17 - McChord AFRC

T-6 - NAS Pensacola (Pilot for Nav FAIP)

KC-135 - March

KC-46 - JBDML

KC-135 - McConnell

T-38 - Columbus

B-2 - Whiteman

T-38A - Langley 

T-6 - Columbus

F-16 - TBD

F-15E - Seymour Johnson

F-5 - International

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  On 7/16/2022 at 5:55 PM, Bode said:

T-6 FAIP drop to NAS Pensacola last night. Probably the best FAIP assignment in history. The real question is how will they compete on the tail end of their FAIP tour?

No idea about anything else.


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Yikes. Hopefully eligible only for CSO-carrying platforms. Strong incentive to do good and not be a douchecanoe.

I flew for 10 years without having a clue what made a good CSO in a war machine. Gonna be tough for that person to have a clue. 

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Danger41

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I Thought a prerequisite for that job was to be a terminal O-5 on a fini tour. They must’ve needed a snacko or something.

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  On 7/17/2022 at 8:00 PM, jice said:

Yikes. Hopefully eligible only for CSO-carrying platforms. Strong incentive to do good and not be a douchecanoe.

I flew for 10 years without having a clue what made a good CSO in a war machine. Gonna be tough for that person to have a clue. 

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Has an 11R (recon/tanker follow-on)

the other faips were 11M(mobility) and 11F(fighter)

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  On 7/17/2022 at 2:38 PM, the g-man said:


Nah. It was just tossed in there.

No way it’s a placeholder for Whiting. The AF hasn’t sent a student there in over 7 years


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Well shit...now I feel old.  I've been stuck in the CENTCOM version of hell for a few years and missed that decision.

It's also a bummer, I enjoyed my time as a UPT stud there.

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  On 7/18/2022 at 10:39 PM, GKinnear said:
Well shit...now I feel old.  I've been stuck in the CENTCOM version of hell for a few years and missed that decision.
It's also a bummer, I enjoyed my time as a UPT stud there.
But they still send IPs there...
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HuggyU2

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  On 7/16/2022 at 9:51 PM, Danger41 said:

That’s shocking. 

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Not to many of us. 
For a long time, UPT grads were FAIP'd to Nav Training back when it was done with the T-37. Worked fine. 

Why does this seem to be a big deal?

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  On 7/25/2022 at 5:04 AM, HuggyU2 said:

Not to many of us. 
For a long time, UPT grads were FAIP'd to Nav Training back when it was done with the T-37. Worked fine. 

Why does this seem to be a big deal?

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Shocking because all I’ve heard over the last several years is pilot shortage and sending a FAIP outside of pilot production is surprising. Not outside the dudes skills or anything, just a production standpoint.

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KCBM 22-14/22-14XPW

C-17 - Charleston (1 active/2 reserve)
T-6 (11M) - CBM x2
T-6 (11F) - CBM
C-17 - Wright Patt
C-17 - Dover
KC-135 - Fairchild
UH-60 - Japan
KC-135 - McConnell 
E-8 - Robins x2- reserve
KC-135 - Meridian (ANG)
C-146 - Duke x2
KC-46 - McConnell
KC-135 - Mildenhall
C-17 - McChord x2
KC-135 - MacDill
MC-130J - Kirtland
KC-135 - IN ANG
C-17 - WV ANG
C-130H - IL ANG
F-16 - TBD
T-38 - ADAIR Langley

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  On 8/7/2022 at 4:15 PM, WoAce said:

KCBM 22-14/22-14XPW

C-17 - Charleston (1 active/2 reserve)
T-6 (11M) - CBM x2
T-6 (11F) - CBM
C-17 - Wright Patt
C-17 - Dover
KC-135 - Fairchild
UH-60 - Japan
KC-135 - McConnell 
E-8 - Robins x2- reserve
KC-135 - Meridian (ANG)
C-146 - Duke x2
KC-46 - McConnell
KC-135 - Mildenhall
C-17 - McChord x2
KC-135 - MacDill
MC-130J - Kirtland
KC-135 - IN ANG
C-17 - WV ANG
C-130H - IL ANG
F-16 - TBD
T-38 - ADAIR Langley

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XPW is still a thing? Is Columbus not on the 2.5 syllabus for everyone?

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Yeah, Columbus still has 4-5 legacy classes left

2.5 is all new classes

XPW class was either high performing ejection seat waiver (2)

or prior flight experience between 500-2000 hours

 

one or two more XPW classes may be a thing but not regularly scheduled 

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Arkbird Crew Dawg

Arkbird

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  On 8/8/2022 at 12:23 AM, WoAce said:

Yeah, Columbus still has 4-5 legacy classes left

2.5 is all new classes

XPW class was either high performing ejection seat waiver (2)

or prior flight experience between 500-2000 hours

 

one or two more XPW classes may be a thing but not regularly scheduled 

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That makes sense. I'm heading there at the end of the month and start UPT in November. Figured I'd be doing the 2.5 syllabus.

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  On 8/5/2022 at 11:34 PM, HiAlph12 said:

KSPS 22-07

F-22

F-16 x5

F-15E

A-10 

T-38C FAIP

B-52 x2

B-1

C-130 x2 (RNAF)

F-35 (RNAF)

 

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Congrats dudes!!!

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Biff_T

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  On 8/7/2022 at 4:15 PM, WoAce said:

KCBM 22-14/22-14XPW

C-17 - Charleston (1 active/2 reserve)
T-6 (11M) - CBM x2
T-6 (11F) - CBM
C-17 - Wright Patt
C-17 - Dover
KC-135 - Fairchild
UH-60 - Japan
KC-135 - McConnell 
E-8 - Robins x2- reserve
KC-135 - Meridian (ANG)
C-146 - Duke x2
KC-46 - McConnell
KC-135 - Mildenhall
C-17 - McChord x2
KC-135 - MacDill
MC-130J - Kirtland
KC-135 - IN ANG
C-17 - WV ANG
C-130H - IL ANG
F-16 - TBD
T-38 - ADAIR Langley

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I have no idea what's going on but that is a freaking huge drop (o)(o)?

Congrats! 

I'll be one of the guys space A-ing into Thailand.  I'm sorry for the lavatory in advance 😔. 

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