SurelySerious Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 I'll hazard a guess: "do more with less"
Harvey Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 The manning numbers are a function of the crew ratio reduction and being in the middle of closing 2 squadrons. The community is really inexperienced as well.
Jaded Posted October 20, 2015 Posted October 20, 2015 Any fighter guys recently try to palace Chase? 6 Months early still getting approved or are people getting out earlier than that?
Smokin Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Longest I've heard of recently (11F) was 9 months and it sounds like the guard squadron put some work into the justification.
Champ Kind Posted October 29, 2015 Posted October 29, 2015 Any C-130J guys heard of any IPs having a PC application approved?
Prestige Worldwide Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 My PC got approved last week and I owe this site a lot for the gouge. I'm a 2007 11S former NSAv PC-12 guy that's currently flying T-6s. I was hired by a Guard unit close to home and will be leaving AD 2 years and 10 months early. Everything went my way - SQ, WG and functional all recommended approval. I was very proactive and would recommend meeting or at least talking to all of them. My airframe being phased out helped my case as well. It's not an easy process, so don't make the decision without some serious thought.
Warrior Posted October 30, 2015 Posted October 30, 2015 Any C-130J guys heard of any IPs having a PC application approved? No, and I know of at least one guy who applied last year under the force shaping rules who got denied but is trying again every 6 months until he either gets approved or finishes his ADSC
Duck Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Anyone know if you can submit a PC app while you are deployed with a separation date of 2 months after you get back?
Herkasaurus Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 On October 29, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Champ Kind said: Any C-130J guys heard of any IPs having a PC application approved? Mine was denied with a line number, completely filled out 1288, and wing approval. The functional said the J community was over manned...however he needs all the IPs he can get to stand up RJTY while keeping the schoolhouse manned. He's gonna be able to play that card for the next 3yrs at least while they stand up.
Duck Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 How much were you asking for? Heavy functionals are being told to deny all apps outside of one year.
Bode Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 My PC got approved last week and I owe this site a lot for the gouge. I'm a 2007 11S former NSAv PC-12 guy that's currently flying T-6s. I was hired by a Guard unit close to home and will be leaving AD 2 years and 10 months early. Everything went my way - SQ, WG and functional all recommended approval. I was very proactive and would recommend meeting or at least talking to all of them. My airframe being phased out helped my case as well. It's not an easy process, so don't make the decision without some serious thought. That's also because you smell funny and we are sick of it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
abmwaldo Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 Not necessarily PC but I was told that if your only ADSC is from the post 9-11 GI Bill TEB that you could transfer your remaining commitment to the ANG. (Confirmed via AFI) I got hired as an AGR and want to separate but in vMPF separations the only options for separation that seem to make sense are Palace Chase, transfer to another service, or misc. my question is which one do I choose to start that process?
Duck Posted December 19, 2015 Posted December 19, 2015 It would either be a palace chase or misc. if you do a miscellaneous they will probably want you to write a memo stating that your forfeit you VA TEB since a miscellaneous separation completely let's you out of your remaining ADSC.
Herkasaurus Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 On December 19, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Duck said: How much were you asking for? Heavy functionals are being told to deny all apps outside of one year. I figured that was part of it, but I was asking for 2yrs 1
Duck Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Only 2 years? That is what I have seen approved lately. I would keep trying. Being an IP is a special container the functional checks which is hurting you too. Ugh. Big Blue.
Duck Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 AMC/ACC functional roadshow just came through my base. The C-17 specific functional said they are under orders to recommend disapproval for anyone outside 1 year. He said the most of an 11M he has seen get out of is 2 years. Remember they are just making a recommendation but it seems to carry more weight than the O-6 Wing Commander who recommends approve. F@ck this place.
Champ Kind Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 How long does it typically taking from hitting "submit" on the request to reach a decision? Do they take the time it takes to lead turn the application into the decision? Ex: if it takes about three months to process and you submit 15 months out, is that deemed "no" because it's outside of a year? Man, how bad has AD gotten that we are nickel and diming PC applications to the month?
Duck Posted December 25, 2015 Posted December 25, 2015 Bad. But it seems to take around 6-7 weeks or so. Mine always makes it out of the wing quickly but sits a lot at AFPC and the Palace Chase office.
Duck Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 I think you mean he could submit July 2016 for a Jan 2017 separation in your example, but yes they base their decision on the day you put down you want to separate and how much remaining ADSC you would have then. I remember something about valid separation dates being between 8 weeks to a max of 6 months from the day you hit submit. However it is still first come first processed at the PC office regardless of how early or late your requested separation date.
Chicken Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 On 12/19/2015 at 5:51 AM, abmwaldo said: Not necessarily PC but I was told that if your only ADSC is from the post 9-11 GI Bill TEB that you could transfer your remaining commitment to the ANG. (Confirmed via AFI) I got hired as an AGR and want to separate but in vMPF separations the only options for separation that seem to make sense are Palace Chase, transfer to another service, or misc. my question is which one do I choose to start that process? What AFi is this in? I was curious to see if mine would get approved with my only ADSC being GI Bill transfer going until 2018.....
SCRIMP Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 Can someone PM me some information on the Vance Reserve squadron. I had zero luck today via the global. I have a ton of questions. Thanks in advance! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
abmwaldo Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 Not necessarily PC but I was told that if your only ADSC is from the post 9-11 GI Bill TEB that you could transfer your remaining commitment to the ANG. (Confirmed via AFI) I got hired as an AGR and want to separate but in vMPF separations the only options for separation that seem to make sense are Palace Chase, transfer to another service, or misc. my question is which one do I choose to start that process? What AFi is this in? I was curious to see if mine would get approved with my only ADSC being GI Bill transfer going until 2018..... So I can't seem to find it in an AFI; that specific data is from my in service recruiter, taken with a salt shaker full of salt, I'll post the exact verbiage later. I ended up applying for Palace Chase anyways; I'll let the message board know what happens. I've got less than a year, hired for a full time AGR job, and don't want to go to staff this summer so what do I have to lose?
Vickrey15E Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Now that I am kicking around the idea of Palace Chasing I wanted to ask, is there such a thing as "too early"? In other words, I am still a few years out from being eligible so is it worth mine and the ANG sq's time to send them my resume and start contacting them? My thought is, I would rather them have my file on hand for a few years so that when that time comes, the seeds of familiarity have already been sown. However, if a guard bubba says that sending them my information this early will result in my file going to straight to the shredder, then I will wait.
abmwaldo Posted February 9, 2016 Posted February 9, 2016 My application made it out of the SQ and WG inside of 7 days. It got to AFPC where it was rejected, not denied, due to not having my medical/dental records, pt scores, and a copy of my SURF attached. I thoroughly reviewed the Palace Chase, Officer Separations, and the briefing on the vMPF separations site. At no point did I see any of those things were required. Did I just miss it or were there some other regs/memos/etc that I should have read? If you click on Palace Chase the pop up, on the separations page of vMPF, specifically says a 1288, 2631, and personal memo were the "required" documents. The awesome thing was that I had attached the medical clearance letter from the state flight surgeon clearing my to join that state's ANG. All of those items, medical/dental/pt, were specifically annotated on there that I met Alaska's standards.
Duck Posted February 9, 2016 Posted February 9, 2016 Yeah. It isn't written anywhere that they need that stuff however they instantly reject it if it isn't there. I always call the PC office to make sure they have all the right documents. They can't really do much more for you than that though.
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