Wearing Jump Wings at UPT

[Nightrider03]

I'm getting ready to head off to UPT at Moody, class 07-13, and I've got a question. In some of the pre-arrival info I received from the registrar, it recommended having flight-suit nametags before showing up. They gave their specs for what they require, black leather, name, rank. However, in the picture and accompanying description, nothing was mentioned about having your jump wings on them or not. Does anyone know for sure if I can have them? Thanks in advance.

[Shut up 'n color]

We were given ours here (Vance), the day before we started...I didn't get my wings on it nor did any of the USAFA dudes in our class. I hear that you can have them on there once your flight(s) are allowed to wear the class patch and, then I think we can get "real" nametags....I have seen some students around with their wings on, but they are much further along than our class. At some point you can, I would just get the basic black patch until you hear otherwise...you don't wana show up being "that guy."

[Guest ruckerstud]

You can have them.

[Guest kylejustin]

What about badges from prior AFSCs?

[Shut up 'n color]

Originally posted by kylejustin:

What about badges from prior AFSCs?

Ya...those are good...we have a Nav, Army (Fix wing Qual), and 2 Navy guys with some random wings.

[Guest ShineR]

About the AFA wings, I dont think those are actual rated jump wings. I dont remember where I read it, but you can only wear those as a cadet and once you hit AD they are a NOGO. However, if you have been to Airborne, those are rated wings, youve earned them, and by reg required to wear them.

[Riddller]

The jump wings you get from the AFA are 'rated' (whatever that means) and you wear them on active duty.

[ 29. March 2006, 09:42: Message edited by: Riddller ]

[Scooter14]

Riddller's right.

The only mandatory badges are your most current aeronautical (pilot, nav, ABM, Flight Doc) and chaplain. Parachutist badges are not aeronautical (I checked 11-402). Anything else is optional. So, navs at UPT must wear their nav wings, but a jump qualified (Rucker or USAFA) nav may or may not wear the parachutist badge. Helo pilots have to wear their pilot wings.

I didn't look up prior enlisted aircrew, but if I was a loadmaster or engineer or boom, I would wear my wings.

Besides, the little jump wings under the pilot wings are the "academy identification badge"...they gotta have something in the airplane, since you can't wear rings ;)

[ 21. March 2006, 23:13: Message edited by: Scooter14 ]

[Guest AirGuardian]

As Riddler said, the AFA Wings are worn on AD - adopted from the Army of course - hence some people wear the Black Army Airborne Wings vs the Blue AF style copy.

If you earned it, wear'm proud!

[Guest PilotKD]

Originally posted by Nightrider03:

I'm getting ready to head off to UPT at Moody, class 07-13, and I've got a question. In some of the pre-arrival info I received from the registrar, it recommended having flight-suit nametags before showing up. They gave their specs for what they require, black leather, name, rank. However, in the picture and accompanying description, nothing was mentioned about having your jump wings on them or not. Does anyone know for sure if I can have them? Thanks in advance.

Hey Nightrider, a bit off subject, but is "Patty" still there at Moody as the registrar?

Um, but yeah you can wear jump wings and yes, I had to order my tags before arriving also and that was March 2003. :D

[Guest chosen_one50]

Be safe and don't wear 'em until told you can do so, always the safe bet, especially when in AETC as a student...And by the way you CAN wear them on active duty if you choose to do so.

[Guest sickels101]

Screw being safe, you earned them. I've known plenty of studs who wore them. Why would AETC care if you are wearing a badge that is allowed and you earned? Just so long as you still have the same style of name tag the rest of the class has.

[WHAP]

wear them, its fine and SNTS is right. I dont know what school G came from, but I went to Moody and Laughlin and nobody at either base gave a shit about somebody wearing jump wings.

[brabus]

Is it normal to have to buy the plain leather nametag before UPT, or do they make it for you and you just have to tell them on your own accord to put the jump wings on?

[Guest sickels101]

Originally posted by brabus:

Is it normal to have to buy the plain leather nametag before UPT, or do they make it for you and you just have to tell them on your own accord to put the jump wings on?

At Vance they made it for us but they didn't really care who had what regarding badges (unless you were prior aircrew). But once we soloed we were allowed to do whatever the hell we wanted to with our patch situation. If you want to but a leather patch with jump wings or whatever on it, I would get the standard silver writing. I recommend Mardon Co for any and all patch work.

[sky_king]

Originally posted by PilotKD:

Hey Nightrider, a bit off subject, but is "Patty" still there at Moody as the registrar?

I'm not Nightrider, but yes Ms. Patty is still the registrar...

[brabus]

Well whatever, I'll just take what they give me at Vance and "update" the new patch after I solo (knock on wood :D ).

[ 22. March 2006, 20:14: Message edited by: brabus ]

[Guest PilotKD]

Originally posted by sky_king:

I'm not Nightrider, but yes Ms. Patty is still the registrar...

[ChkHandleDn]

Originally posted by ShineR:

About the AFA wings, I dont think those are actual rated jump wings. I dont remember where I read it, but you can only wear those as a cadet and once you hit AD they are a NOGO. However, if you have been to Airborne, those are rated wings, youve earned them, and by reg required to wear them.

That's how you can usually tell the USAFA grads from the rest of us "other active duty folk." They have their jump wings on the BDUs and blues.

[ChkHandleDn]

Originally posted by kylejustin:

What about badges from prior AFSCs?

What you need to get are a pair of the new Space and Missile "SPWINGS!" (Yes, they are actually called spwings)

Pretty sweet if you ask me! All the misileers look like actual pilots now, especially in their purty flight suits! :rolleyes:

[Guest Aflyer]

Spwings with star and wreath ... does that make the person a "Command Button Pusher"?

[Cappy70]

At Laughlin they have this ancient machine that makes the name tags, and your class is the one that makes them. So yeah anyone with the "academy pin" put them on and no one I've ever been around has said anything about them.

[ 25. March 2006, 12:33: Message edited by: Cappy70 ]

[Toro]

If you earned them, wear them

Unless they look like that

[brabus]

I saw a dude that graduated from my det a year ago last week. He's a contracting officer at Peterson and HAS the spwings. He thinks it's the gayest idea ever. So does everyone in space command get them or something? I forgot to ask. And being a contractor, he has nothing to do with pushing buttons or "flying" satellites.

[Guest ruckerstud]

Actually the S&M folks call the wreath and star "spwing with bling". I am still amazed that some one came up with something pisses off pilots and missile folks off at the same time.