Abnormal pap smear

[Guest future_nav]

recently had my fc1a which went smoothly. got recent results back from my last pap and they came back abnormal graded low severity. i'm going into the doctors in a week to have further tests for HPV... assuming this is the case, how long do i have to wait for my flight physical to be considered for approval...(like do i have to have a certain # of clear paps before its submitted, or a certain amount of time?) :(

[Guest KillYourself]

I'll let someone else handle this one...

[Guest KillYourself]

Come on. Anyone able to provide a little input here?

[Guest Apollo]

I'm sure F16Doc will come in and answer this, just sit tight. Hiya Kim, hang in there!

[Guest doctidy]

We all have to meet standards to stay in the AF as a baseline in addition to those for flying training. W/ that said, there is nothing disqualifying for flying training for abnormal Pap smears.

[Guest future_nav]

? you're saying an abnormal papsmear is not disqualifying? if this were the case, why is it listed right under the disqualifying medical condition of missing a testicle? lol.

my flight physical is sitting in a file waiting for a clear papsmear to be approved. i just want to know what the regulations are for how many consecutive paps have to be clear before they'll look at me again...

[Guest F16PilotMD]

Only thing I know of is in regard to your initial appointment (i.e.: "enlisting") in the USAF:

A3.17.14.3. Pap smears graded abnormal, or any smear in which the descriptive terms condyloma

accuminatum, human papilloma virus, dysplasia, carcinoma-in-situ, or invasive cancer are used.

Nothing disqualifying for flying unless your "abnormal" pap smear ends up as a malignancy or you are treated with a drug that is makes you DNIF while you are taking it.

[Guest future_nav]

ok, but again, my flight physical is still being held until i get a clear papsmere to send them. how many clear paps do i need before they approve my physlcal? i've heard 2 and i've heard 3....?

[Guest F16PilotMD]

Never heard of a number. Who is holding your physical?

[Guest elroy]

F16PilotMD

You are like the Dr. Drew of baseops.net

[Guest future_nav]

the flight surgeon's office.

[Guest F16PilotMD]

Not sure WTF they are doing. My advice is to speak with them about your question since they seem (?) to have a plan. I just can't find anything to support this. I'll keep looking. Let me know how this goes.

[Guest future_nav]

i did talk to them. they told me to update them when i get my recent tests back. my physical will not be sent until i have a clear papsmear. maybe this is pointless to look in to anymore.... i was just hoping a female on this site might have been through the same thing and could give me a timeframe. i know for sure i can't pass my physical without a clear papsmear.

[Guest doctidy]

I said abnormal PAP is not disqualifying for flying.

If indeed your abnormal PAP is from HPV, it could be a long time before a "clear" PAP. All you need is the condition treated...not a "clear" PAP.

I'm not a female on this site...but a guy who knows Flight Medicine. If you can't get a straight answer, PM me w/ a POC and we'll get it fixed. This is not serious and is easily fixed.

[Guest future_nav]

unfortunately, my doctor told me pending test results that it usually goes away by itself and that they don't treat it, just do a pap every 3-6 months and watch it carefully.

my mother thinks i should go to her doctor and get a second opinion.... results should be in this week sometime, so we'll see what they say...

[Guest F16PilotMD]

Future-

It sounds like you have a serious miscomm going on. Goes away by itself...?? I'm no OB/GYN, but that's crazy.

I agree with the second opinion.

Take care of yourself first, then work the IFC-1A or whatever.

[Guest future_nav]

so it turns out that my biopsy results came back normal. now new question...anyone know if when i get the results on paper in the mail and fax them to flight medecine, can they be a substitute for a clear papsmear? i mean it is a more thorough test after all....

well, if nobody knows, i will just have to find out when i get them in my hands and talk to the people handling my physical.