ClearedHot Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 Anyone know of an actual statement in the regulations that says promotion ceremonies are up to the individual? I want to dispense with the nonsense and just wear it to work, but I am getting some pushback.
M2 Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 CH I don't think a reg exists that states that. You can try contacting AFPC's Officer Promotions at DSN 665-2483, COMM 210-565-2483 or email offprom@randolph.af.mil There is no mention of anything on their promotion ceremony web site, just info on how to conduct one. Sorry I can't be of more help... Cheers! M2 Sorry,
ClearedHot Posted January 27, 2006 Author Posted January 27, 2006 M2...that is what my research has shown and I was hoping someone would know something I don't.
Ryder1587 Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 Hey my dad just retired a few months ago. I dont know if the Army is different or not but I think it was voluntary to do it. I may be wrong but I think they gave him the option.
M2 Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 Ryder Not retirement, promotion. Retirement ceremonies are voluntary, as I well know... CH I found the enlisted reg (AFI 36-2503, pg 6), but all it states is... 1.10. When to Have Promotion Ceremonies . Commanders may conduct ceremonies on the last duty day before the promotion effective date and inform the member that ceremonies do not affect pay, seniority, or entitlements.I counldn't find anything else in AFI 36-2501, Officer Promotions, just the same bumpf that is on AFPC's web site. Nothing in AFPAM 36-2506, AF Officer Promotion Program. I've always heard it was voluntary, but finding that in writing is--as you know--not easy. Good luck! Cheers! M2
Ryder1587 Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 Ahh ok. Guess I need to slow down on the reading.
M2 Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 CH Our two-star's protocol office is across the building from me, so I walked over and asked them. They did not know of any regs that state you have have a ceremony, but htey suggested that if your boss is pushing you to have one, then plan something small to appease him. Sounds like good advice, try to keep it informal with donuts and such. That may not work, but it is worth a try! Cheers! M2
Mambo Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 You could always schedule some leave over the time you pin on....then just show up back at work with the new rank.
ClearedHot Posted January 27, 2006 Author Posted January 27, 2006 Originally posted by Mambo: You could always schedule some leave over the time you pin on....then just show up back at work with the new rank. Tried that and and failed.
otsap Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 You could decline your promotion. Have you tried that? (Edit: can't spell) [ 27. January 2006, 13:47: Message edited by: otsap ]
Mambo Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 Well hell, you could tell them to show you the reg where you have to go. I'm guessing that they will have as hard a time finding one that says you have to, as you are finding one that says you don't. Of course now if your CC gives you a direct order then I'm sure all bets are off. [ 27. January 2006, 11:54: Message edited by: Mambo ]
Guest C-21 Pilot Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 You can't fit in your blues or something????
Guest rotorhead Posted January 28, 2006 Posted January 28, 2006 Here's a spin for you... When I pinned on from capt to maj, the wing honchos kept pushing for a similar "event"...I also just wanted to wear it to work one day (esp for capt to maj...cmon)...so I told them that the day was indeed very significant to me, and it was "my dream" to pin on in the aircraft (in this case, the back of the helo) as it flew over the base...I asked the wing cmdr if he would do me "the great honor" of pinning me while we were doing "what I lived for," with a flag (on a crewmember's bag!), with him/I saying the oath over intercom...he fell for it...no speech or blues...just some punch in the hangar upon landing...you might try spinning some patiotic, heroic flying kaka, and he might go for it! [ 27. January 2006, 22:04: Message edited by: rotorhead ]
Guest Xtndr50boom Posted January 28, 2006 Posted January 28, 2006 ^^ Yeah CH, what R-head said. Tell your boss you want to have your ceremony while "doing what you love", just don't mention the midget porn and jumbo tube of KY and he/she just might go for it.
Guest comanche Posted January 28, 2006 Posted January 28, 2006 Last time I heard CH was at the hell hole called the Pentagon. I can't imagine him trying to have it in his cubical, although it would be funny. Congrats on the promotion
Guest Hydro130 Posted January 28, 2006 Posted January 28, 2006 Cheers to ya CH; thanks for the awesome work you've done at work and on the borad to support the crewdog! Slanje!
Guest Hydro130 Posted January 28, 2006 Posted January 28, 2006 Newman!... errr, it's a pronunciation thing... "borad", you know, "board".... or something like that... Apologize for that confusion, Cheers still! VR, Hydro
ClearedHot Posted January 28, 2006 Author Posted January 28, 2006 Originally posted by Xtndr50boom: just don't mention the midget porn and jumbo tube of KY and he/she just might go for it. How did you know? Sorry man, I didn't know she was your mom
ClearedHot Posted January 28, 2006 Author Posted January 28, 2006 Originally posted by C-21 Pilot: You can't fit in your blues or something???? It's just principle. I don't want to stand there while some chucklehead has to memorize my career and spout a bunch of nonsense about me.
M2 Posted January 28, 2006 Posted January 28, 2006 Originally posted by Clearedhot: It's just principle. I don't want to stand there while some chucklehead has to memorize my career and spout a bunch of nonsense about me.
Guest Xtndr50boom Posted January 28, 2006 Posted January 28, 2006 Originally posted by Clearedhot: Sorry man, I didn't know she was your mom "Mom, were you in a German Scheize video?" "No, sweetie"
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